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	<title>Comments on: 280Atlas: Paid Beta Available</title>
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		<title>By: sourceRoot</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276654</link>
		<dc:creator>sourceRoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done this exactly! OMG.. I guess this shows that there is truly no original idea :-) well I digress.. I didn&#039;t try to match the desktops UI .. thats probably the hard part :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done this exactly! OMG.. I guess this shows that there is truly no original idea :-) well I digress.. I didn&#8217;t try to match the desktops UI .. thats probably the hard part :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Nosredna</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276633</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosredna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, beta. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, beta. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosredna</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276632</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosredna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I worry about is that I have no idea how long the alpha lasts. I could be done with my app during my alpha. Would I be able to deploy it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I worry about is that I have no idea how long the alpha lasts. I could be done with my app during my alpha. Would I be able to deploy it?</p>
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		<title>By: jeromew</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276627</link>
		<dc:creator>jeromew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tiagosimoes I&#039;d never use it myself (programmer pride!) but FWIW that looks like a seriously nice bit of software</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tiagosimoes I&#8217;d never use it myself (programmer pride!) but FWIW that looks like a seriously nice bit of software</p>
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		<title>By: tiagosimoes</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276626</link>
		<dc:creator>tiagosimoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sixtyseconds You&#039;re right, sorry - The Agile Platform 5.0 just went out of beta today and I got carried away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sixtyseconds You&#8217;re right, sorry &#8211; The Agile Platform 5.0 just went out of beta today and I got carried away.</p>
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		<title>By: sixtyseconds</title>
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		<dc:creator>sixtyseconds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tiagosimoes speak to the moderators about advertising fees... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tiagosimoes speak to the moderators about advertising fees&#8230; :P</p>
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		<title>By: tiagosimoes</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276621</link>
		<dc:creator>tiagosimoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a PC you want to create web applications visually I would also suggest the free community edition of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsystems.com/demos/DemoScreen.aspx?Movie=Web-Development--An-AJAX-application-in-5-minutes!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Agile Platform&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a PC you want to create web applications visually I would also suggest the free community edition of the <a href="http://www.outsystems.com/demos/DemoScreen.aspx?Movie=Web-Development--An-AJAX-application-in-5-minutes!" rel="nofollow">Agile Platform</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jeromew</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeromew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, sorry - must read and engage brain before commenting. So you get the $20 knocked off the final price of the product. Fair enough, I guess but it still rankles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, sorry &#8211; must read and engage brain before commenting. So you get the $20 knocked off the final price of the product. Fair enough, I guess but it still rankles.</p>
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		<title>By: jeromew</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/280atlas-paid-beta-available/comment-page-1#comment-276619</link>
		<dc:creator>jeromew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My idea of a beta is something along the lines of... Here&#039;s some software that&#039;s not ready yet, it may well still have some bugs in it. If you find those bugs you don&#039;t need to be upset, because you haven&#039;t paid for it, but in return I&#039;d like you to tell me about the problem so I can fix it and release a good product that I can charge money for.

Paying for the privilege of QAing someone else&#039;s software seems a bit off to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My idea of a beta is something along the lines of&#8230; Here&#8217;s some software that&#8217;s not ready yet, it may well still have some bugs in it. If you find those bugs you don&#8217;t need to be upset, because you haven&#8217;t paid for it, but in return I&#8217;d like you to tell me about the problem so I can fix it and release a good product that I can charge money for.</p>
<p>Paying for the privilege of QAing someone else&#8217;s software seems a bit off to me.</p>
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