Comments on: A great example of sharing; Sizzle Engine in Dojo Foundation

By: YvesBeeBole

YvesBeeBole — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:32:47 +0000

PURE is now fully supporting Sizzle:
http://beebole.com/blog/2008/12/04/pure-is-now-supporting-sizzle-and-mootools/

By: anewton

anewton — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:19:55 +0000

I’ve posted about this on Clientcide posing the question as to whether MooTools should switch to Sizzle:

http://www.clientcide.com/industry-news/sizzle-power-in-mootools/

Feedback most appreciated.

By: ThomasHansen

ThomasHansen — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:37:23 +0000

About selector engines, here’s a *very* different one; http://ra-ajax.org/selectors-for-webcontrols-querying-into-the-control-hierarchy-on-the-server.blog
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Selector engine for running queries on server into ASP.NET Control hierarchies… :)

By: lovejs

lovejs — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:34:05 +0000

It’s like Dojo is always 2 steps ahead. The other frameworks listed aren’t adopting, just looking.

By: Nosredna

Nosredna — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:49:24 +0000

Peppy seems like the only serious competition to Sizzle now. It’d be nice to see Peppy and Sizzle battle for a while so browser makers can speed them both up.

By: nonken

nonken — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:26:53 +0000

@sos: competition is something absolutely important, I agree. In the case of the query engines I personally think that it is on the browser vendors now to speed things up and not on js framework developers to find yet another tweak to raise the benchmark bars.
We should focus on giving js/web developers the best possible tools to get their jobs done, the browser vendors have to give us the right and performant environment.

By: Spocke

Spocke — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:21:50 +0000

Yes, we currently have a basic CSS selector engine that only supports basic patterns. If we include Sizzle we will be able to use more advanced patterns, don’t really know if that is something we need for our API but it would be nice to adapt some form of standard implementation. And the Sizzle engine Resig is building seems to fit that need perfectly.

By: Jordan1

Jordan1 — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:42:47 +0000

TinyMCE? So a rich text editor is going to subsume a CSS selector engine?

By: sos

sos — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:21:17 +0000

What are the performance numbers of Sizzle compared to dojo.query? Is it really so much faster that it justifies such a big rework of dojo core? If so, then great, but is not adopting this a little anti-competitive? The whole reason Sizzle (and dojo.query and all the other CSS selector engines) became so good is because of the very healthy arms race among toolkits to be the best.

If they all use the same base, does this competition, and the amazing progress it creates, go away? Is Sizzle really the absolute best we can get?

By: nonken

nonken — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:16:52 +0000

w00t, thats is really good news. Again this shows how much the libraries are working together behind the scenes :) And I really hope to see more of this happen in the future

By: phiggins

phiggins — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:01:35 +0000

Damn you Dion, I wanted to blog this first! This is very exciting, and I can’t wait to see what this means for the overall cooperation between all these allegedly “competing” libraries. I threw a quick and heart-felt +1 on the Foundation list, and will repeat the sentiment here.