Comments on: Ajax Pattern Screencasts http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Business Information Blog » Blog Archive » Article from Ajaxian - Ajax Pattern Screencasts http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-45016 Business Information Blog » Blog Archive » Article from Ajaxian - Ajax Pattern Screencasts Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:24:56 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-45016 [...] Blog Name: Ajaxian Article Title: Ajax Pattern Screencasts Andre @ eBusiness has released some nice, simple, screencasts illustrating various Ajax patterns at work. As supporting material for patterns, screencasts like this make a good complement to images and working demos. [...] [...] Blog Name: Ajaxian Article Title: Ajax Pattern Screencasts Andre @ eBusiness has released some nice, simple, screencasts illustrating various Ajax patterns at work. As supporting material for patterns, screencasts like this make a good complement to images and working demos. [...]

]]> By: Andre Charland http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8155 Andre Charland Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:18:07 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8155 Hi Nelson, I totally agree. The AJAX part is how it's implemented technically which doesn't actually change the interfaces pattern. Where the fact that AJAX is used becomes relevant is when you need to apply design constraints. There are certain limitations to an AJAX UI that wouldn't be there in a desktop environment or even Flash/FLex for that matter. Hi Nelson, I totally agree. The AJAX part is how it’s implemented technically which doesn’t actually change the interfaces pattern. Where the fact that AJAX is used becomes relevant is when you need to apply design constraints. There are certain limitations to an AJAX UI that wouldn’t be there in a desktop environment or even Flash/FLex for that matter.

]]> By: Nelson Rodríguez-Peña http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8138 Nelson Rodríguez-Peña Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:46:25 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8138 I definitely think these are not AJAX patterns, but interface patterns, whether they are implemented using AJAX or not is not relevant from an interface perspective. I definitely think these are not AJAX patterns, but interface patterns, whether they are implemented using AJAX or not is not relevant from an interface perspective.

]]> By: AJAX-pattern screencasts | Scriptorama http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8010 AJAX-pattern screencasts | Scriptorama Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:57:48 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8010 [...] Vandaag op Ajaxian staat een link naar iemand die 3 screencasts heeft gemaakt van zogenaamde “AJAX patronen”. [...] [...] Vandaag op Ajaxian staat een link naar iemand die 3 screencasts heeft gemaakt van zogenaamde “AJAX patronen”. [...]

]]> By: Matthew Ratzloff http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8008 Matthew Ratzloff Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:43 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8008 I should note that I'm responding to their blog post, not this one (which accurately points out that these demos are just supplemental material). I should note that I’m responding to their blog post, not this one (which accurately points out that these demos are just supplemental material).

]]> By: Matthew Ratzloff http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8007 Matthew Ratzloff Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:39 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8007 <b>dkappe</b>, I was going to say the same thing. These aren't patterns. These are product demos. Relationship diagrams? Downsides? Sample code? Someone reasonably experienced in Ajax knows what's going on behind the scenes, but then, they've probably already thought of or implemented something similar in their own projects. dkappe, I was going to say the same thing. These aren’t patterns. These are product demos. Relationship diagrams? Downsides? Sample code?
Someone reasonably experienced in Ajax knows what’s going on behind the scenes, but then, they’ve probably already thought of or implemented something similar in their own projects.

]]> By: dkappe http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8006 dkappe Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:31:30 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8006 Are these really "patterns?" They seem more like "good ideas you might try with AJAX." Maybe I'm too much of a GoF purist, but these seem just too light weight. Are they really patterns that solve design problem? Design problems of non-AJAX web pages (err, what's a post back in AJAX?), sure, but not AJAX design problems. The pattern Wiki you have up on your title bar is, in my opinion, a better source. For example, how do you <a href="http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/04/asynchronous_pr.html" rel="nofollow">perform asynchronous processing</a> in a servlet container? Async update calls for it, wants it, needs it. I recently put together a little AJAX app that used the <a href="http://mule.codehaus.org/" rel="nofollow">Mule ESB</a> to do some of this async processing. Very sweet. I'll probably included something about it in my Echo2 tutorial series. Are these really “patterns?” They seem more like “good ideas you might try with AJAX.” Maybe I’m too much of a GoF purist, but these seem just too light weight. Are they really patterns that solve design problem? Design problems of non-AJAX web pages (err, what’s a post back in AJAX?), sure, but not AJAX design problems.

The pattern Wiki you have up on your title bar is, in my opinion, a better source. For example, how do you perform asynchronous processing in a servlet container? Async update calls for it, wants it, needs it.

I recently put together a little AJAX app that used the Mule ESB to do some of this async processing. Very sweet.

I’ll probably included something about it in my Echo2 tutorial series.

]]> By: Rob http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-8002 Rob Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:57 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-8002 Alex and Michael, I agree with what the two of you have said and believe that too, but I personally like to see the Open Source stuff more than I do that commercial stuff. Especially here... My preference really. Like a lot of people here, I use Linux, MySQL, Apache and PHP... Open Source is an enabler... When I see things like this I know it's a behind the scenes way to advertise and well... I don't like it : ) But hey... that's what makes the world go round' I guess. Thanks for the responses to my comments guys! Take care : ) Alex and Michael, I agree with what the two of you have said and believe that too, but I personally like to see the Open Source stuff more than I do that commercial stuff. Especially here… My preference really. Like a lot of people here, I use Linux, MySQL, Apache and PHP… Open Source is an enabler… When I see things like this I know it’s a behind the scenes way to advertise and well… I don’t like it : ) But hey… that’s what makes the world go round’ I guess. Thanks for the responses to my comments guys! Take care : )

]]> By: Michael Mahemoff http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-7915 Michael Mahemoff Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:11:23 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-7915 Rob, the way I see it, it's a good thing if commercial companies are adding value, engaging with the Ajax developer community, and presenting their tech in ways that provide value to people whether they're using it or not. OTOH, when companies hide their tech behind PDF whitepapers, difficult-to-access demos, and bland press releases, that's when you're probably not going to hear much about them. Rob, the way I see it, it’s a good thing if commercial companies are adding value, engaging with the Ajax developer community, and presenting their tech in ways that provide value to people whether they’re using it or not. OTOH, when companies hide their tech behind PDF whitepapers, difficult-to-access demos, and bland press releases, that’s when you’re probably not going to hear much about them.

]]> By: Alex http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-7913 Alex Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:09:21 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-7913 It's interesting though becuase there is actually quite a large commercial market behind all the free stuff, which includes guys like EBA, Backbase, Zimbra, AjaxFaces, etc etc. Are we to not discuss them because they're commercial? Would that be in our best interests? It’s interesting though becuase there is actually quite a large commercial market behind all the free stuff, which includes guys like EBA, Backbase, Zimbra, AjaxFaces, etc etc. Are we to not discuss them because they’re commercial? Would that be in our best interests?

]]> By: Rob http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-pattern-screencasts/comment-page-1#comment-7912 Rob Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:58:34 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1122#comment-7912 Personally I'm not a big fan of seeing these types of things on this site because they are advertisements to conrols and such. Not cool... this is one that I've seen in the past and although it's really nice I would never pay the money they are asking for the control. Personally I’m not a big fan of seeing these types of things on this site because they are advertisements to conrols and such. Not cool… this is one that I’ve seen in the past and although it’s really nice I would never pay the money they are asking for the control.

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