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	<title>Comments on: Ajaxian 2007 Survey Results</title>
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		<title>By: Goob</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-259854</link>
		<dc:creator>Goob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to the results is dead. Please fix it.
thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to the results is dead. Please fix it.<br />
thx</p>
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		<title>By: navot</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257142</link>
		<dc:creator>navot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These surveys as indicating as they are do leave out new emerging solution that under the statistic radar but still suggests new approach that might supersede any current solution. One of them seems to be a new solution that stands out of the rest by the simplicity, ease of adaptation and the ability to offer a valid solution for complexities of enterprise grade apps. security concerns and its different approach. Worth taking a look at Visual WebGui web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These surveys as indicating as they are do leave out new emerging solution that under the statistic radar but still suggests new approach that might supersede any current solution. One of them seems to be a new solution that stands out of the rest by the simplicity, ease of adaptation and the ability to offer a valid solution for complexities of enterprise grade apps. security concerns and its different approach. Worth taking a look at Visual WebGui web site.</p>
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		<title>By: vitrus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257125</link>
		<dc:creator>vitrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasonably predictable results, and good to finally hear someone say nobody uses .NET
1- How many participants did the survey have
2- Why wait 4 months for the result?
3- Where is mootools (easy light and free)
4- Where is Backbase 4 (heavy but very complete and clean, and free)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasonably predictable results, and good to finally hear someone say nobody uses .NET<br />
1- How many participants did the survey have<br />
2- Why wait 4 months for the result?<br />
3- Where is mootools (easy light and free)<br />
4- Where is Backbase 4 (heavy but very complete and clean, and free)</p>
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		<title>By: -McC-</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257098</link>
		<dc:creator>-McC-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I remember the entry for the survey, had the same rants in the comments and so many people pointed out that its useless. And now we can see in the results that they where true :-)

+1 point for MooTools and I wanne hug everyone in their cuddly community, we snuggle all day ... seriously, using the popular &quot;considered harmful&quot; phrase: Using JavaScript frameworks without any JS skills or without the will to learn some JS considered harmful!

Anyway, nice try for a useful survey, better luck for the next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I remember the entry for the survey, had the same rants in the comments and so many people pointed out that its useless. And now we can see in the results that they where true :-)</p>
<p>+1 point for MooTools and I wanne hug everyone in their cuddly community, we snuggle all day &#8230; seriously, using the popular &#8220;considered harmful&#8221; phrase: Using JavaScript frameworks without any JS skills or without the will to learn some JS considered harmful!</p>
<p>Anyway, nice try for a useful survey, better luck for the next time.</p>
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		<title>By: troof</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257092</link>
		<dc:creator>troof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think moo is great - from an engineering and documentation perspective. however, community is just as important to long term success imho.


it&#039;s their right to act anyway they want. just think it&#039;s short sighted (actually more like immature)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think moo is great &#8211; from an engineering and documentation perspective. however, community is just as important to long term success imho.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s their right to act anyway they want. just think it&#8217;s short sighted (actually more like immature)</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Benevides</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257084</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Benevides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next year, when asking about frameworks/libs branch between backend &amp; frontend use please.
As for backend use my money is on Ext ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next year, when asking about frameworks/libs branch between backend &amp; frontend use please.<br />
As for backend use my money is on Ext ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257083</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with Dojo and have been gradually shifting over to Moo, but I absolutely agree about the attitude on the forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with Dojo and have been gradually shifting over to Moo, but I absolutely agree about the attitude on the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: troof</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257080</link>
		<dc:creator>troof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe if mootools fostered their community instead of actively trying to drive &quot;noobs&quot; away they would do better on these popularity contests. 

the height of irony to complain about getting hosed. mootools hoses themselves with their elitist attitude.

can&#039;t have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe if mootools fostered their community instead of actively trying to drive &#8220;noobs&#8221; away they would do better on these popularity contests. </p>
<p>the height of irony to complain about getting hosed. mootools hoses themselves with their elitist attitude.</p>
<p>can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Reggie Drake</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257072</link>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of participants is one of the most important aspects of such a set of numbers -- if I managed to miss it, someone please point it out. If it&#039;s not there, add it before you embarrass yourself any further.

(And yes, as a professed MochiKit fanboi, I&#039;m sad that that library -- and mootools -- are not mentioned as separate numbers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of participants is one of the most important aspects of such a set of numbers &#8212; if I managed to miss it, someone please point it out. If it&#8217;s not there, add it before you embarrass yourself any further.</p>
<p>(And yes, as a professed MochiKit fanboi, I&#8217;m sad that that library &#8212; and mootools &#8212; are not mentioned as separate numbers.)</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257058</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Those charts are almost useless. Anyone ever heard of a fellow named Tufte?!? Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Those charts are almost useless. Anyone ever heard of a fellow named Tufte?!? Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257056</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, mootools got hosed here.  It&#039;s fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, mootools got hosed here.  It&#8217;s fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Baz L</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257055</link>
		<dc:creator>Baz L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.NET solutions cost too much money.

Money with development tools, plus money for servers. The few people that use it (like myself) use it at work, that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.NET solutions cost too much money.</p>
<p>Money with development tools, plus money for servers. The few people that use it (like myself) use it at work, that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257053</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many people participated in this poll? 10? 10,000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people participated in this poll? 10? 10,000?</p>
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		<title>By: El Gato Del Nombre Miles</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257052</link>
		<dc:creator>El Gato Del Nombre Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is MilesScript?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is MilesScript?</p>
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		<title>By: Nir Tayeb</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257049</link>
		<dc:creator>Nir Tayeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is MooTools ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is MooTools ???</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257048</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember writing in mootools on the &quot;other&quot; :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember writing in mootools on the &#8220;other&#8221; :(</p>
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		<title>By: Skowron</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257046</link>
		<dc:creator>Skowron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is mootools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is mootools?</p>
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		<title>By: Healy</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257045</link>
		<dc:creator>Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statistics are the way forward. Would be interested to see how many people are using Ruby? Anyone have any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistics are the way forward. Would be interested to see how many people are using Ruby? Anyone have any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Vytas</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257042</link>
		<dc:creator>Vytas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post advertisement at <a href="http://fivq.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fivq.com/</a> . There you can offer your services, find gigs (short term jobs) or long term jobs. It is good place who would like to work remotely. Also there you can promote your website, your services. Between its absolutely free to post and no registration needed.</p>
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		<title>By: PACSFerret</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxian-2007-survey-results/comment-page-1#comment-257040</link>
		<dc:creator>PACSFerret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance getting hold of the raw data?  I&#039;d like to see what a JOIN between framework and application type looks like (i.e. which frameworks are used for full apps and which for prettifying web pages).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance getting hold of the raw data?  I&#8217;d like to see what a JOIN between framework and application type looks like (i.e. which frameworks are used for full apps and which for prettifying web pages).</p>
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