Comments on: Applebox: iTunes in Serverless Ajax http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:55:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Simon http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax/comment-page-1#comment-259775 Simon Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:10:47 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=3086#comment-259775 Ziggy: My take on Serverless AJAX is that it's a technique of delivering a web application client without the use of a serverside architecture. Delivery is via plain 'ol static html and JavaScript. No php/asp/cfm/jsp. It then makes independant AJAX data calls to a set of application services. The app services require a server architecture, but that can be focused on purely data responses and not burdened with UI issues (and so are also reusable by any application client). . BuzzWorkers: Thanks! . tastypopsicle: You're right! I don't support Safari - yet! My app services return SOAP XML documents, and so I use XPATH to query the response and pull out the data I need. When I wrote APPLEBOX, Safari (version 2) didn't offer XPATH. Safari 3 now does, so once I get the time, I'll be revisiting my data/service layer to check it's all compatible. With Safari's profile on the increase, I look forward to supporting it fully. . Schill: That's great news. The idea is the performance hit is felt up front, when the app framework and most of the UI modules are downloaded. Once loaded, iframes are shuffled forward to achieve the app navigation, and the data is retrieved by a SOAP call. With the increasing size of JavaScript frameworks these days (prototype/YUI/dojo, even the APPLEBOX framework), once it's loaded - that's it! Each page navigation doesn't require the framework be turfed (on page exit), and then reloaded (on page entry) all over again. All UI widgets persist, so they also, don't need to be rebuilt. It's possible to build a Rich Internet App without it becoming painfully slow to get around. . . There's more about the architecture here: http://applebox.com.au/blog/2007/12/mda-soa-and-serverless-ajax-our-web-stack-defined/ . Cheers, Simon Gilligan APPLEBOX Founder Ziggy:
My take on Serverless AJAX is that it’s a technique of delivering a web application client without the use of a serverside architecture. Delivery is via plain ‘ol static html and JavaScript. No php/asp/cfm/jsp. It then makes independant AJAX data calls to a set of application services. The app services require a server architecture, but that can be focused on purely data responses and not burdened with UI issues (and so are also reusable by any application client).
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BuzzWorkers:
Thanks!
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tastypopsicle:
You’re right! I don’t support Safari – yet! My app services return SOAP XML documents, and so I use XPATH to query the response and pull out the data I need. When I wrote APPLEBOX, Safari (version 2) didn’t offer XPATH. Safari 3 now does, so once I get the time, I’ll be revisiting my data/service layer to check it’s all compatible. With Safari’s profile on the increase, I look forward to supporting it fully.
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Schill:
That’s great news. The idea is the performance hit is felt up front, when the app framework and most of the UI modules are downloaded. Once loaded, iframes are shuffled forward to achieve the app navigation, and the data is retrieved by a SOAP call. With the increasing size of JavaScript frameworks these days (prototype/YUI/dojo, even the APPLEBOX framework), once it’s loaded – that’s it! Each page navigation doesn’t require the framework be turfed (on page exit), and then reloaded (on page entry) all over again. All UI widgets persist, so they also, don’t need to be rebuilt. It’s possible to build a Rich Internet App without it becoming painfully slow to get around.
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There’s more about the architecture here: http://applebox.com.au/blog/2007/12/mda-soa-and-serverless-ajax-our-web-stack-defined/
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Cheers,
Simon Gilligan
APPLEBOX Founder

]]> By: Schill http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax/comment-page-1#comment-259755 Schill Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:29:44 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=3086#comment-259755 I was wondering how the performance and implementation would stand up, and from what I saw (about 2 minutes of tinkering), it's pretty zippy and also handles browser resizing pretty nicely. Not bad! I was wondering how the performance and implementation would stand up, and from what I saw (about 2 minutes of tinkering), it’s pretty zippy and also handles browser resizing pretty nicely. Not bad!

]]> By: tastypopsicle http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax/comment-page-1#comment-259753 tastypopsicle Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:21:48 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=3086#comment-259753 Hmmm looks like Applebox does not work in Safari on Windows or Mac. http://applebox.com.au/sorry/windows.html http://applebox.com.au/sorry/mac.html That seems a bit counter to the whole Apple thing now doesn't it? Hmmm looks like Applebox does not work in Safari on Windows or Mac. http://applebox.com.au/sorry/windows.html
http://applebox.com.au/sorry/mac.html

That seems a bit counter to the whole Apple thing now doesn’t it?

]]> By: BuzzWorkers http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax/comment-page-1#comment-259751 BuzzWorkers Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:53:43 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=3086#comment-259751 Impressive and interesting :) Impressive and interesting :)

]]> By: ziggy http://ajaxian.com/archives/applebox-itunes-in-serverless-ajax/comment-page-1#comment-259744 ziggy Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:03:00 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=3086#comment-259744 I didn't understand most of the words used. Uhh, what is "Serverless AJAX"??? I didn’t understand most of the words used.

Uhh, what is “Serverless AJAX”???

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