Tuesday, June 10th, 2008

Aptana Cloud: A sneak peak

Category: Aptana, Cloud, JavaScript

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Dougal Matthews has been playing with Aptana Cloud in a beta form. He wrote up this piece that walks you through the functionality with screenshots:

After creating a project it then is automatically available in the cloud options.

When you click on the project under the cloud menu you are taken through a (very easy to use) wizard for configuration. This runs your through a few steps, setting up a site name, picking a payment plan (the beta is free), payment details and so on. Most of these screens are fairly standard, however the service selection is quite interesting. I imagine these prices are not final, so just take them with a pinch of salt.

The payment scheme seems to be quite flexible and we can see a large number of services that are included, PHP being the main server side language at the moment, with Aptana Jaxer still being a beta… (Ruby of Rails is on the ‘coming soon’ list). The prices range from the cheapest being 256 MB ram and 5 GB hard disc for $0.99 a day, up to 2 GB of ram and 25 GB hard disc for $8.22 a day. Seems fairly reasonably priced.

After set-up is finished, it phones home and does some magic.

This is an important step for Aptana, as it not only gives us a good general cloud service, but it also gives you the perfect place to play with Jaxer. I am looking forward to seeing more.

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hmm Cloud = webhosting 2.0? I think i am lost. after i read what aptana cloud is. someone please clarify. Amazon EC2 makes me believe that it is another generation of webhosting but closer to utility computing.

Comment by gtwiz — June 10, 2008

The only reason I use PHP is that it’s so easy to find cheap hosts. I might think about Jaxer once it spreads. It looks like a fun server to program.

Comment by Nosredna — June 10, 2008

whats “Ruby of Rails” :P shouldn’t it be “Ruby ON Rails”

Very cool btw

Comment by jaimz — June 10, 2008

This is an interesting trend. To some degree it kinda scares me. I mean it’s cool that you can just push a couple of buttons and “BAM” you have a webapplicaiton server. But I tend to think that part of the art of making an application is understanding the environtment it runs it, tuning the applciation and knowing how to grow it. Things like this and google app engine give me the creeps. But then I suppose when your business model is, the more resources you use, the more money we make, service providers would want to discourage efficiency. Just some thoughts….

Comment by mojave — June 10, 2008

mojave,

Mature technologies always leave efficiency behind. We don’t program games in assembly language anymore. At some point, it’s more important to add features and address usability than to squeeze out the last cycles.

Comment by Nosredna — June 10, 2008

Convention over configuration is a great thing if you know how to use it. Deployment is definitely one area where convention over configuration makes sense for a large percentage of web apps, imo. Underlying all of that is that you have to intimately KNOW the convention (see Rails: You can gain so much efficiency out of Rails, but you have to know where the opinionated decisions reside, and how to leverage them). If you don’t, you introduce fragility, but if you DO, you know where not to tread and how to leverage it into great productivity and performance gains.

Comment by holts — June 10, 2008

You can request early access to Aptana Cloud @ http://www.aptana.com/cloud

Comment by khakman2 — June 10, 2008

Nosredna,
This is true to a certain degree, it is however a very bad mime to propogate to programmers. It is why XP is faster than Vista, why it takes 10X as much electricity to serve a Rails application as it does to serve one in Java doing the same work ( because it take 10 servers to every 1 ). I’ve noticed in the last few years a new generation of programmers coming up that just think “If it’s not serving fast enough throw more hardware at it.” Programmers who have more in common with PowerPoint Jockies than … well… programmers.

Comment by mojave — June 10, 2008

I’ll state the obvious: …that’s a very hyperbolic and distorted view of the truth, Mojave. Nothing wrong with being a Java developer, Java is great. But clearly you haven’t developed in Ruby or Rails much. …use the right tool for the right job, and Rails apps developed by people who understand the conventions fit for a very large class of web applications. Same goes for Python/Django apps. The relationship you make to .ppt just communicates a complete ignorance of Rails in general, a framework that espouses TDD/BDD, MVC, separation of concerns, OO development.

Comment by holts — June 10, 2008

mojave,

I’m certainly against mimes, but I think the word you were looking for is “meme.”

Sometimes you can throw software at the problem (more servers) and sometimes you can’t (consumer web client).

There have always been more bad programmers than good, i think.

Comment by Nosredna — June 10, 2008

Er, I meant hardware, not software.

Comment by Nosredna — June 10, 2008

Maybe i didn’t get the point – but what makes this webspace so special, that it’s about 2 times more expensive than a usual virtual server with similar performance ?

Comment by phpeter — June 11, 2008

Nosrednalts,
ya memes, memes… dawkins memes not multpart mimes…

Comment by mojave — June 11, 2008

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