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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254981</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rey: 
You may have not been briefed on the fact that Aptana changed their license, and are no longer open source:
http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com/2007/09/source-open.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rey:<br />
You may have not been briefed on the fact that Aptana changed their license, and are no longer open source:<br />
<a href="http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com/2007/09/source-open.html" rel="nofollow">http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com/2007/09/source-open.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christian Decker</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254811</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Decker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite happy using the Aptana Plugin for Eclise, if it weren&#039;t so darn slow sometimes, especially when editing PHP-Files. Hopefully this release will change this ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite happy using the Aptana Plugin for Eclise, if it weren&#8217;t so darn slow sometimes, especially when editing PHP-Files. Hopefully this release will change this ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254680</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that not-so-bleeding edge, they&#039;re still on jQuery 1.1.3, while Komodo hit 1.1.4 near-instantly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that not-so-bleeding edge, they&#8217;re still on jQuery 1.1.3, while Komodo hit 1.1.4 near-instantly!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254679</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rodrigo, Joeri
I am a product of exactly what Joeri describes.  With a background in HTML, JS, and C (among others), it was extremely easy to pick up PHP (especially with its recent OO style) to write some simple backend database code, and ample resources and open-source programs helped me along the way.  Now, I don&#039;t know how I ever lived without coding PHP, if only to provide graceful AJAX degradation. Wait, the PHP-JSON extension is invaluable too.  Now I&#039;m coding both jQuery and PHP together and it&#039;s wild keeping my $&#039;s in order, but that&#039;s where the IDE is a lifesaver.
The only other server-side language I can think of with such widespread availability might be ASP, and of course MS does not need more of my $$$.

More on topic, I prefer Komodo, which long has had great support PHP and jQuery, among a long list of languages - but Aptana seems to be faster on the bleeding-edge iPhone and AIR apps (which I don&#039;t quite have a use for yet).  Why do bleeding-edge coders love Aptana so much? I have d/led it but haven&#039;t had the time to install and learn a new app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rodrigo, Joeri<br />
I am a product of exactly what Joeri describes.  With a background in HTML, JS, and C (among others), it was extremely easy to pick up PHP (especially with its recent OO style) to write some simple backend database code, and ample resources and open-source programs helped me along the way.  Now, I don&#8217;t know how I ever lived without coding PHP, if only to provide graceful AJAX degradation. Wait, the PHP-JSON extension is invaluable too.  Now I&#8217;m coding both jQuery and PHP together and it&#8217;s wild keeping my $&#8217;s in order, but that&#8217;s where the IDE is a lifesaver.<br />
The only other server-side language I can think of with such widespread availability might be ASP, and of course MS does not need more of my $$$.</p>
<p>More on topic, I prefer Komodo, which long has had great support PHP and jQuery, among a long list of languages &#8211; but Aptana seems to be faster on the bleeding-edge iPhone and AIR apps (which I don&#8217;t quite have a use for yet).  Why do bleeding-edge coders love Aptana so much? I have d/led it but haven&#8217;t had the time to install and learn a new app.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Henke</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254677</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Henke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jive check out the download page.  ECLIPSE PLUGIN and standalone installs (other installs maybe based on Eclipse).

http://www.aptana.com/download_all.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jive check out the download page.  ECLIPSE PLUGIN and standalone installs (other installs maybe based on Eclipse).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aptana.com/download_all.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.aptana.com/download_all.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jive</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254672</link>
		<dc:creator>Jive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aptana is a standalone version of Eclipse and was originally intended as a JavaScript framework, but its a good HTML editor as well. The colorization is much better than it was in previous versions. I haven&#039;t really tried out the PHP functionality but PDT does a good job with PHP and will be 1.0 final soon. PHP is far from dead, there are tons of good libraries (simplepie), web apps, and new frameworks available for it. It may not have the buzz it once did, but its still has a lot of new stuff coming out that is awesome.

Check out some aptana video tutorials
http://aptana.tv/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aptana is a standalone version of Eclipse and was originally intended as a JavaScript framework, but its a good HTML editor as well. The colorization is much better than it was in previous versions. I haven&#8217;t really tried out the PHP functionality but PDT does a good job with PHP and will be 1.0 final soon. PHP is far from dead, there are tons of good libraries (simplepie), web apps, and new frameworks available for it. It may not have the buzz it once did, but its still has a lot of new stuff coming out that is awesome.</p>
<p>Check out some aptana video tutorials<br />
<a href="http://aptana.tv/" rel="nofollow">http://aptana.tv/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Henke</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254657</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Henke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aptana has a cool ftp setup used to &quot;synchronize&quot; files with several options such as a upload, download, and a &quot;Sync Manager&quot; (only upload, download, or both).  I also like the Aptana File View except it doesn&#039;t have SVN support.

@Adnan Siddiqi 
Aptana is both an eclipse plugin or a stand alone IDE with installs for Windows, Mac, and Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aptana has a cool ftp setup used to &#8220;synchronize&#8221; files with several options such as a upload, download, and a &#8220;Sync Manager&#8221; (only upload, download, or both).  I also like the Aptana File View except it doesn&#8217;t have SVN support.</p>
<p>@Adnan Siddiqi<br />
Aptana is both an eclipse plugin or a stand alone IDE with installs for Windows, Mac, and Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: physio</title>
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		<dc:creator>physio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My aptana has also not been working properly since a recent update. I can no longer connect to any of my ftp servers though any other app I use still connect fine. Aptana tries and tries and I end up having to kill the process. Frustrating...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My aptana has also not been working properly since a recent update. I can no longer connect to any of my ftp servers though any other app I use still connect fine. Aptana tries and tries and I end up having to kill the process. Frustrating&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254649</link>
		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodrigo: PHP is easy in the sense that a complete newbie can start with a HTML page in which they embed a few snippets of code. Then, as they learn more, they can gradually expand the code, until it inverts and suddenly they have a PHP page that uses a templating engine to pull in the HTML, like you would have in &quot;evolved&quot; languages like ruby or python.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodrigo: PHP is easy in the sense that a complete newbie can start with a HTML page in which they embed a few snippets of code. Then, as they learn more, they can gradually expand the code, until it inverts and suddenly they have a PHP page that uses a templating engine to pull in the HTML, like you would have in &#8220;evolved&#8221; languages like ruby or python.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve BOyd -Php easy??? You got to be kidding...The only thing that keeps php alive is that is free and runs on any linux with apache .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve BOyd -Php easy??? You got to be kidding&#8230;The only thing that keeps php alive is that is free and runs on any linux with apache .</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254647</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Aptana an Eclipse Plugin rather a stand alone IDE? I have seen screen shots and it&#039;s really excited to know that there is an IDE for Javascript. Importing toolkits seems a good feature. I would like to know that is it possible to import custom Libraries within this system or not?

@Mike, you are kidding about php, No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Aptana an Eclipse Plugin rather a stand alone IDE? I have seen screen shots and it&#8217;s really excited to know that there is an IDE for Javascript. Importing toolkits seems a good feature. I would like to know that is it possible to import custom Libraries within this system or not?</p>
<p>@Mike, you are kidding about php, No?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve BOyd</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254643</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve BOyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andrew dunno about against other php ecplise plugins, though i&#039;d venture a guess and say quite well cos i was really disapointed with phpecplise.  i&#039;ve recently brought a copy of phped from nusphere.com and i have to say it&#039;s absolutely solid.  It&#039;s quite freaky how it can find all the variables in local scope when you&#039;re using cakePHP since it&#039;s doing a lot of backward includes.  also comes with an embedded webserver

@fretlessjazz - i&#039;ve been hearing that for so long but php isn&#039;t exactly dieing.  obviously it&#039;s not the greatest language in the world but it&#039;s good enough for websphere and there are more open source solutions coded for that then any other language.  php has a bad rap almost purely because its too easy to code in and there is a lot of awful developers and code out there.  however with the latest wave of frameworks (cakephp, symphony, etc) this means that even poor programmers can code that is solid and secure.

People keep saying it&#039;s going to die but it would take another dynamic language thats easy to code in and has massive community support to superseed it and there simply isn&#039;t anything else out there anywhere in the same league right now.  Ruby .Net is about the only thing that i think that has a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andrew dunno about against other php ecplise plugins, though i&#8217;d venture a guess and say quite well cos i was really disapointed with phpecplise.  i&#8217;ve recently brought a copy of phped from nusphere.com and i have to say it&#8217;s absolutely solid.  It&#8217;s quite freaky how it can find all the variables in local scope when you&#8217;re using cakePHP since it&#8217;s doing a lot of backward includes.  also comes with an embedded webserver</p>
<p>@fretlessjazz &#8211; i&#8217;ve been hearing that for so long but php isn&#8217;t exactly dieing.  obviously it&#8217;s not the greatest language in the world but it&#8217;s good enough for websphere and there are more open source solutions coded for that then any other language.  php has a bad rap almost purely because its too easy to code in and there is a lot of awful developers and code out there.  however with the latest wave of frameworks (cakephp, symphony, etc) this means that even poor programmers can code that is solid and secure.</p>
<p>People keep saying it&#8217;s going to die but it would take another dynamic language thats easy to code in and has massive community support to superseed it and there simply isn&#8217;t anything else out there anywhere in the same league right now.  Ruby .Net is about the only thing that i think that has a chance</p>
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		<title>By: fretlessjazz</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254642</link>
		<dc:creator>fretlessjazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHP is the PowerBuilder of tomorrow...  it&#039;s about to die a long, painful death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHP is the PowerBuilder of tomorrow&#8230;  it&#8217;s about to die a long, painful death.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254637</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wonder about: Aptana claims to support so many things, but is it just colorization + code hints? Because there is another PHP plugin for Eclipse (http://www.zend.com/pdt), why should I choose Aptana, and how would it all fit together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wonder about: Aptana claims to support so many things, but is it just colorization + code hints? Because there is another PHP plugin for Eclipse (<a href="http://www.zend.com/pdt" rel="nofollow">http://www.zend.com/pdt</a>), why should I choose Aptana, and how would it all fit together?</p>
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		<title>By: beyondwork</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254635</link>
		<dc:creator>beyondwork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yesterday, i did the update. after that, aptana stopped working. i have seen this problem in previous versions of aptana. their updates never worked properly.

but i liked the aptana IDE. i dont like it when updating it which makes me to think it is bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesterday, i did the update. after that, aptana stopped working. i have seen this problem in previous versions of aptana. their updates never worked properly.</p>
<p>but i liked the aptana IDE. i dont like it when updating it which makes me to think it is bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Jessup</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254623</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Jessup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have any experience in how this new version of Aptana stacks up against other PHP eclipse plug-ins (like PHPEclipse or PDT?) for PHP development?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any experience in how this new version of Aptana stacks up against other PHP eclipse plug-ins (like PHPEclipse or PDT?) for PHP development?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kant</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254619</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eclipse variants are still too slow for my general use, but Aptana is an excellent solution when you&#039;re using a Java environment (which I am). Aptana has quite a few useful features that aren&#039;t in most IDE&#039;s though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eclipse variants are still too slow for my general use, but Aptana is an excellent solution when you&#8217;re using a Java environment (which I am). Aptana has quite a few useful features that aren&#8217;t in most IDE&#8217;s though.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254618</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the JavaScript action Wrap in Comment does not toggle?  Instead it wraps the comment in another comment.  Toggling should remove the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the JavaScript action Wrap in Comment does not toggle?  Instead it wraps the comment in another comment.  Toggling should remove the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: elalecs</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254616</link>
		<dc:creator>elalecs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antiquated? ahm do you know PHP?

Excelent! I can leave now jEdit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antiquated? ahm do you know PHP?</p>
<p>Excelent! I can leave now jEdit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Henke</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/aptana-milestone-9-now-available/comment-page-1#comment-254615</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Henke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares so much about PHP support?  It&#039;s a deading, antiquated language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares so much about PHP support?  It&#8217;s a deading, antiquated language.</p>
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