Comments on: Beyond DOM

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:06:19 +0000

Recently I have been using (and pretty impressed by) the mootools library. Itâ€™s events class is great for handling this sort of thing. Just write some simple functions to update/manipulate the DOM in accordance with custom events.

@tj111:
The idea of the post is to go “beyond DOM” which is why MooTools is the kind of tool which the author wants to get rid of. No offence to MooTools.

By: tj111

tj111 — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:12:34 +0000

Yeah, this gets very annoying, but I have my own workarounds I use. Recently I have been using (and pretty impressed by) the mootools library. It’s events class is great for handling this sort of thing. Just write some simple functions to update/manipulate the DOM in accordance with custom events. So when new data is received from the server, I can have all necassary objects fire a “onDataChange” event, then just use a simple event listener to handle it.

By: Mikael Bergkvist

Mikael Bergkvist — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:24:17 +0000

The XML runtime of widgetplus apps represents the state of the app at any given time, and that runtime sits on the server, and this is why the apps data remains persistent from one session to another.
http://www.widgetplus.com

By: khakman

khakman — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:13:01 +0000

A higher level DOM abstraction is EXACTLY the way in which TIBCO GI is architected so as to handle increasingly feature rich, full featured Ajax apps. Instead of working directly with the HTML DOM, TIBCO GI provides an “AOM” — Application Object Model with which you work. Then in a MVC pattern, the Model of the application is used to generate the View — and it’s the View that’s rendered via the HTML DOM. There are TIBCO GI apps out there with over 180 modules in them that run over full-workday long sessions. The abstraction to an Application Object Model makes full featured apps easier to build and manage and serves to assist with better memory management via automated garbage collection when components and data are removed. The full source of TIBCO GI is @ http://gi.tibco.com.

By: gossi

gossi — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:16:44 +0000

I’m working on gara a eclipse swt/jface clone for javascript. So jsface is maybe the thing you want. It’s about representing javascript objects in widgets. Saving and updating is just a XHR request. Updating the UI is done by just one refresh(); method. I will send this to ajaxian soon as more can be seen, so prepared ;)

There you go: http://gara.creative2.net

By: Dale Asberry

Dale Asberry — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:12:54 +0000

This is the hard problem we run into, regardless of language… they are cross cutting concerns ;-)

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:46:53 +0000

html state management?

By: Snowcore

Snowcore — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:55:00 +0000

I agree, it becomes a real problem, when your UI is too complicated…