Comments on: Browser News: IE, FF, Safari, and Opera

By: eyelidlessness

eyelidlessness — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:56:24 +0000

@matanlurey:
I see colors, but I see no sliding nor fading. At all. Which is surprising, considering sliding and fading are generally present for some of this stuff’s analogues in the OS, for instance switching “tabs” in the toolbar generally crossfades and slides with other like windows, but does not in the Inspector.
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The main colors I see are syntax highlighting (with an almost identical color scheme to that of Firebug, but with reds and blues switched) and color coding by MIME type in the resources pane. Both of these are pretty handy (the latter I wish Firebug had!), and I don’t understand the objection. Can you clarify?
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That said, I wouldn’t call it “better than Firebug” either, particularly because it still seems to have some issues with calculations in the network pane. I also haven’t had a lot of time to hunt around, but it seems pretty solid in general, and certainly in the same class as Firebug now that it allows DOM manipulation and has profiling.

By: PedroBatista

PedroBatista — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:45:16 +0000

A lot of people are calling it â€œbetter than Firebugâ€, but its a little too flashy for me to be super productive â€” too much â€œslidingâ€, fading, and colors.

Take some of your own poison you ajax bling bling developers!!!!
:)

By: matanlurey

matanlurey — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:54:49 +0000

@Nosrenda

Safari 4 DOES work for PC, and in preliminary testing, Drosera works fine. A lot of people are calling it “better than Firebug”, but its a little too flashy for me to be super productive — too much “sliding”, fading, and colors.

By: eyelidlessness

eyelidlessness — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:54:02 +0000

I haven’t used the Safari 4 preview yet, so my answers are more general than specific to S4…
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@Nosredna: “And does it work on Windows? Iâ€™ve only been able to get Drosera working on the Mac.”

Supposedly yes, it works in Windows. I haven’t ever tried it, but I’ve seen screencaps of it working. And there never was a Drosera for Windows, to my knowledge, but they have merged it into the Inspector, so I expect that’s working too.

By: jaimz

jaimz — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:11:04 +0000

the download link for firefox 3, is the correct one. it will download ff3

By: Nosredna

Nosredna — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:15:48 +0000

Man, just looking at that registration form for Apple gives me a stomach ache.

What’s the status of Safari 4? Is it like the nightly webkits? Does it have the bytecode JavaScript squirrelfish stuff?

What’s so great about the debugger? And does it work on Windows? I’ve only been able to get Drosera working on the Mac.

By: uize

uize — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:48:43 +0000

@Nosredna
Sounds like it’s time for me to takle a re-look at Opera.

By: Nosredna

Nosredna — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:22:42 +0000

Opera surprised me the most. Maybe because its makeover is so appealing. It doesn’t look like butt anymore.

They also fixed a canvas bug that I kept tripping over when trying to draw filled charts.

By: AriesBelgium

AriesBelgium — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:57:50 +0000

Firefox 3.0 was officially released 2 days ago (June 17th) and you can download it from this link: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday . It’s a special page for the worldrecord attempt. Firefox 3.0 was downloaded about 8 million times in 24 hours.

By: V1

V1 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:46:26 +0000

https://connect.apple.com/

downloads.

Been using it for a while now. And i must say, the debug panel is better than firebug.

By: egmar

egmar — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:28:18 +0000

Safari 4 Developer Preview can be downloaded on ADC Member Site (requires registration)