Monday, October 20th, 2008

Letting off some “steam” for your Cappuccino

<>p>The 280 North crew continue to do good work with Cappuccino and Objective-J. We were fortunate to have Francisco Tolmasky speak at The Ajax Experience, and he has continued on a world tour on the subject. Below are some highlights from the Future of Web Apps in London:

The crew has also been detailed some interesting things about the framework:

The latest release is 0.5.5 which features:

  • New build tools, including press
  • Key-Value-Observing
  • CPSplitView, CPWebView, and CPDate
  • Additional Editor Support
  • Major performance gains

Posted by Dion Almaer at 7:05 am
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For some reason I can’t shake the feeling that this framework falls somewhere between Actionscript and mainstream libraries (MooTools, JQuery, etc..) in functionality and “features” and not excelling at either.
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Do people actually use this or is it mostly hype?

Comment by TNO — October 20, 2008

I’ve been watching Objective-J and Cappucino since 280 slides waiting to see where it would go. I have to admit its really cool, and as a language junky, language as an abstraction tool often seems like a clean solution.

I like that it doesn’t require a compilation step, but allows for one for optimized deployment. I like that it mimics a successful application platform – cocoa. 280 slides really backs up the claims of what it can do, but I just can’t help shake the feeling (like TNO) that it misses the mark somewhere. Maybe its just a scary thought to jump onboard with such a niche language as objective-j. GWT at least uses a successful language in its own right – but it comes up with it’s own API. Cappucino hits the mark for some developers there.

I guess only time will tell. I think it would be a lot of fun to play with, but I think that it will need to get some solid footing before anyone is using it in serious production apps (other than for 280 North that is). I give them serious credit for the effort though.

As a developer of a large application on the far right of the web app spectrum, I know where the 280 North crew are coming from. And I have to admit that I’ve resorted to some of the same types of tricks that they’ve done. I’ve built an xml interface language that compiles to js, added preprocessor directive to my js code for imports, added a remoting layer for working with the back end, created a complicated build tool for integrating all the code etc. These are the things one must do to get by in the web app space these days.

Someday soon the efforts of framework developers will coalesce onto a few truly capable framework/platforms for the client rich web applications on the far end of the spectrum. Cappucino may even be one of them. I’m excited to find out.

Comment by genericallyloud — October 20, 2008

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