Comments on: CBC Radio 3 Case Study http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Aphrodisiac http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-277902 Aphrodisiac Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:00:00 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-277902 Interesting article Interesting article

]]> By: philrabin http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276877 philrabin Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:33:47 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276877 We desperately want to implement SWFAddress! It's at the top of the priority list. Since we just relaunched we've been primarily concerned with ironing out bugs, and re-implementing things we left out in order to get the site out on time. Getting SWFAddress properly implemented won't be a trivial task because we have pretty complicated frame-rerouting logic to be able to enter the site with a permalink like http://radio3.cbc.ca/play/band/MSTRKRFT and have the right playlist and correct page load in the frame. It was mostly an issue of resources since we only have two developers here. Trust me, we want it more than anyone. As far as loading all the page content via ajax, it's definitly a clean solution. Maybe something to consider for the future, but in the mean time I think SWFAddress would solve the url issue. We desperately want to implement SWFAddress! It’s at the top of the priority list. Since we just relaunched we’ve been primarily concerned with ironing out bugs, and re-implementing things we left out in order to get the site out on time.

Getting SWFAddress properly implemented won’t be a trivial task because we have pretty complicated frame-rerouting logic to be able to enter the site with a permalink like http://radio3.cbc.ca/play/band/MSTRKRFT and have the right playlist and correct page load in the frame. It was mostly an issue of resources since we only have two developers here. Trust me, we want it more than anyone.

As far as loading all the page content via ajax, it’s definitly a clean solution. Maybe something to consider for the future, but in the mean time I think SWFAddress would solve the url issue.

]]> By: cra5h http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276870 cra5h Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:25:17 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276870 I also think the page interaction is kinda weird this way, the player is not visible at a certain time when the page is loaded, but the music is still playing. I am a big fan of the way http://thesixtyone.com is doing their player. I don't know about the quality of their Ajax implementation code wise, but their site works really well and still supports unique URL's for individual songs. I also think the page interaction is kinda weird this way, the player is not visible at a certain time when the page is loaded, but the music is still playing.

I am a big fan of the way http://thesixtyone.com is doing their player. I don’t know about the quality of their Ajax implementation code wise, but their site works really well and still supports unique URL’s for individual songs.

]]> By: Darkimmortal http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276865 Darkimmortal Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:21:46 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276865 Bootstrapper. Hurrr Bootstrapper. Hurrr

]]> By: jx12345 http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276861 jx12345 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:42:52 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276861 I would say that for this reason alone (lack of changing url's), you should throw away such approach and start from scratch. A long article describing old, non-ajax and soon-to-be deprecated technology. HTML 5 does not have framesets exactly for usability reasons. thomasbradley "I would never have conceived of using frames this way" - nor should you. I can't stress enough, how bad they are. Obviously schellmax's technical staff knows this, as they'd rather rebuild entire page loading mechanism (changing urls, browser history, memory management, resource management etc.) instead of just using frames. I would say that for this reason alone (lack of changing url’s), you should throw away such approach and start from scratch. A long article describing old, non-ajax and soon-to-be deprecated technology. HTML 5 does not have framesets exactly for usability reasons.

thomasbradley
“I would never have conceived of using frames this way” – nor should you. I can’t stress enough, how bad they are. Obviously schellmax’s technical staff knows this, as they’d rather rebuild entire page loading mechanism (changing urls, browser history, memory management, resource management etc.) instead of just using frames.

]]> By: louis http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276794 louis Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:11:19 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276794 I really like this solution but am I the only one that has a problem with the fact that this renders page urls useless. As a user who finds a cool blog article, there is no way to copy the url? This is a HUGE usability problem. I really like this solution but am I the only one that has a problem with the fact that this renders page urls useless. As a user who finds a cool blog article, there is no way to copy the url? This is a HUGE usability problem.

]]> By: schellmax http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276793 schellmax Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:35:17 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276793 we recently built the website for an austrian radio station and were facing the same challenge as mentioned by phil rabin - having an uninterrupted music experience for our users. we went another way though, delivering fully ajax-driven content, having the player ui nicely stay in place. the advantages we came up with are as follows: - no frames (our technical staff refused this) - distinct urls for every content, allowing bookmarks - no need to re-initialize the player ui it's still work in progress, but you might have a look at <a href="http://www.kronehit.at" rel="nofollow">www.kronehit.at</a> we recently built the website for an austrian radio station and were facing the same challenge as mentioned by phil rabin – having an uninterrupted music experience for our users. we went another way though, delivering fully ajax-driven content, having the player ui nicely stay in place. the advantages we came up with are as follows:
- no frames (our technical staff refused this)
- distinct urls for every content, allowing bookmarks
- no need to re-initialize the player ui
it’s still work in progress, but you might have a look at http://www.kronehit.at

]]> By: thomasjbradley http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276791 thomasjbradley Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:59:59 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276791 Impressive work! I would never have conceived of using frames this way! It is also really awesome to see CBC doing some amazing work in-house now! Impressive work! I would never have conceived of using frames this way! It is also really awesome to see CBC doing some amazing work in-house now!

]]> By: gakag http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276788 gakag Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:32 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276788 A similar approach is adopted by http://www.whatpeopleplay.com/. In this case, however, the entire player (including the UI) is housed within the frame static. Although this solution is more dirty, I do not understand (for my stupidity) the need to load every time the UI and then re-initializing .. A similar approach is adopted by http://www.whatpeopleplay.com/. In this case, however, the entire player (including the UI) is housed within the frame static. Although this solution is more dirty, I do not understand (for my stupidity) the need to load every time the UI and then re-initializing ..

]]> By: srboisvert http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276787 srboisvert Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:46:46 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276787 Beautiful work. I am a Canadian expat and I have to confess I never listened to CBC whilst in Canada but your site is going to get prime bookmark toolbar real estate now. You've seriously outclassed the BBC's web radio efforts on a fraction of the budget. Well done! Beautiful work.

I am a Canadian expat and I have to confess I never listened to CBC whilst in Canada but your site is going to get prime bookmark toolbar real estate now. You’ve seriously outclassed the BBC’s web radio efforts on a fraction of the budget. Well done!

]]> By: dgavey http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276786 dgavey Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:25:16 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276786 I'm glad Ajaxian took the time to write about this site, I've been marveling at the design since they launched it a month ago. The only thing I'd like to see different is have the URL changed as you navigate through the site. Although you can get the permalink with a button on the page, I'd love to see it updated in the location bar as well. Oh the fun with iframes. I’m glad Ajaxian took the time to write about this site, I’ve been marveling at the design since they launched it a month ago. The only thing I’d like to see different is have the URL changed as you navigate through the site. Although you can get the permalink with a button on the page, I’d love to see it updated in the location bar as well. Oh the fun with iframes.

]]> By: gabel http://ajaxian.com/archives/cbc-radio-3-case-study/comment-page-1#comment-276782 gabel Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:38:09 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7988#comment-276782 Impressive on first sight, but iframes should not be revived. Worse enough, that google cal html widgets and others still use them. Impressive on first sight, but iframes should not be revived. Worse enough, that google cal html widgets and others still use them.

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