Comments on: Do you want some Ogg in your <video> or <audio>? http://ajaxian.com/archives/do-you-want-some-ogg-in-your-or Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:55:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Hans Schmucker http://ajaxian.com/archives/do-you-want-some-ogg-in-your-or/comment-page-1#comment-266593 Hans Schmucker Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:06:44 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=4067#comment-266593 I don't think there are any mature, portable and fast Dirac implementations around... of course I could be wrong I don’t think there are any mature, portable and fast Dirac implementations around… of course I could be wrong

]]> By: pd http://ajaxian.com/archives/do-you-want-some-ogg-in-your-or/comment-page-1#comment-266590 pd Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:37:33 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=4067#comment-266590 What's wrong with the BBC's Dirac codec? What’s wrong with the BBC’s Dirac codec?

]]> By: eyelidlessness http://ajaxian.com/archives/do-you-want-some-ogg-in-your-or/comment-page-1#comment-266579 eyelidlessness Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:12:25 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=4067#comment-266579 I don't really care much about this subject, but I am curious why comments are disabled on the CSS post. What kind of huge controversy are you avoiding? I don’t really care much about this subject, but I am curious why comments are disabled on the CSS post. What kind of huge controversy are you avoiding?

]]> By: Hans Schmucker http://ajaxian.com/archives/do-you-want-some-ogg-in-your-or/comment-page-1#comment-266563 Hans Schmucker Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:21:04 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=4067#comment-266563 An integrated video format is badly needed, even if bitrates are slightly higher than h264. Right now we have a situation were the only real "standard", as in what we can expect to find on a normal user's machine is part of a rather large framework that cannot be implemented easily by software and hardware developers. Part of why YouTube is also relevant on mobile platforms is that the videos, while usually shown through Flash on the desktop, can also be played independently of Flash by standalone software (CorePlayer, Kinoma...). That's a workaround for sites like YouTube, that justify development and installing dedicated applications, but it doesn't work for content that the user wants to see when he just stumbles upon a webpage. So everyone other than Google is pretty much out of luck when it comes to platforms that don't support Flash... and there are still quite a few... mobilephones, game consoles (yes, the PS3 supports flash, but not the most recent version) and generally embedded devices. Theora is just be the alternative we need... it can easily be implemented on any platform because it's "just" a set of codecs and container formats and not a huge framework. While I don't think that we can afford to leave out Flash video anytime soon, Theora will be there for everybody else. An integrated video format is badly needed, even if bitrates are slightly higher than h264. Right now we have a situation were the only real “standard”, as in what we can expect to find on a normal user’s machine is part of a rather large framework that cannot be implemented easily by software and hardware developers. Part of why YouTube is also relevant on mobile platforms is that the videos, while usually shown through Flash on the desktop, can also be played independently of Flash by standalone software (CorePlayer, Kinoma…). That’s a workaround for sites like YouTube, that justify development and installing dedicated applications, but it doesn’t work for content that the user wants to see when he just stumbles upon a webpage. So everyone other than Google is pretty much out of luck when it comes to platforms that don’t support Flash… and there are still quite a few… mobilephones, game consoles (yes, the PS3 supports flash, but not the most recent version) and generally embedded devices.

Theora is just be the alternative we need… it can easily be implemented on any platform because it’s “just” a set of codecs and container formats and not a huge framework. While I don’t think that we can afford to leave out Flash video anytime soon, Theora will be there for everybody else.

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