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	<title>Comments on: Dojo 1.0 Released: The Granddaddy is Born</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258565</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear good things about Dojo, however I feel the documentation just isn&#039;t good enough. It seems like it&#039;s all available and detailed but the organization of it is just not good enough to sway me away from other frameworks that I am comfortable working with. 

Also, another downside is that it only supports, &quot;Latest Safari (currently 3.0.x), 2.0 support was dropped upon the release of Leopard&quot;

I don&#039;t know who does projects that are only compatible with Safari 3. That&#039;s bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear good things about Dojo, however I feel the documentation just isn&#8217;t good enough. It seems like it&#8217;s all available and detailed but the organization of it is just not good enough to sway me away from other frameworks that I am comfortable working with. </p>
<p>Also, another downside is that it only supports, &#8220;Latest Safari (currently 3.0.x), 2.0 support was dropped upon the release of Leopard&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who does projects that are only compatible with Safari 3. That&#8217;s bad.</p>
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		<title>By: C Keene</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258500</link>
		<dc:creator>C Keene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sanjiv - you can find Dojo grid examples at the dojotoolkit site here:

http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dojox/grid/tests/test_grid.html

All of the basic demos use a stock data model that (arbitrarily) has 1000 rows. Technically, these *are* virtual data sets (even 1000 rows is far too much to render all at once), but it&#039;s not as impressive as if it were 100,000 rows.

For more information, go to the dev.wavemaker.com forums here:

http://dev.wavemaker.com/forums/?q=node/1216</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sanjiv &#8211; you can find Dojo grid examples at the dojotoolkit site here:</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dojox/grid/tests/test_grid.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dojox/grid/tests/test_grid.html</a></p>
<p>All of the basic demos use a stock data model that (arbitrarily) has 1000 rows. Technically, these *are* virtual data sets (even 1000 rows is far too much to render all at once), but it&#8217;s not as impressive as if it were 100,000 rows.</p>
<p>For more information, go to the dev.wavemaker.com forums here:</p>
<p><a href="http://dev.wavemaker.com/forums/?q=node/1216" rel="nofollow">http://dev.wavemaker.com/forums/?q=node/1216</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olmo:

All Dijit widgets provide keyboard access (focus setting, etc.), high-contrast mode support and detection, and WAI ARIA role and state hinting for assistive technologies.

In short, Dojo goes far beyond the letter of the law for accessibility in order to really build a great experience for those using assistive technologies.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olmo:</p>
<p>All Dijit widgets provide keyboard access (focus setting, etc.), high-contrast mode support and detection, and WAI ARIA role and state hinting for assistive technologies.</p>
<p>In short, Dojo goes far beyond the letter of the law for accessibility in order to really build a great experience for those using assistive technologies.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Olmo Maldonado</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258406</link>
		<dc:creator>Olmo Maldonado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry? Please clarify &quot;Dojo&#039;s commitment to accessibility&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry? Please clarify &#8220;Dojo&#8217;s commitment to accessibility&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258378</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s hoping Dojo&#039;s commitment to accessibility lights a fire under the rest of the Ajax frameworks.</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjiv Jivan</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258365</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjiv Jivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an online example of Dojo&#039;s virtual / lazy loading grid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an online example of Dojo&#8217;s virtual / lazy loading grid?</p>
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		<title>By: Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tragic.
Absolutely tragic.
They are expecting developers to *develop* using this thing, and expecting users to put up with the huge ugliness of it and lack of features?
No. Dojo is a non-starter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tragic.<br />
Absolutely tragic.<br />
They are expecting developers to *develop* using this thing, and expecting users to put up with the huge ugliness of it and lack of features?<br />
No. Dojo is a non-starter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Documentation still needs work! Same as before (v0.9)</description>
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		<title>By: C Keene</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258338</link>
		<dc:creator>C Keene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an important milestone in making Ajax safe for the enterprise. We don&#039;t need another fisheye widget, we need an open source toolkit that can beat Silverlight! Dojo 1.0 may not be the ultimate winner of the Ajax wars, but it sure sets a high bar for any toolkit that wants to beat it as a viable RIA toolkit for the enterprise. I wrote more of my thoughts here:
http://www.keeneview.com/2007/11/why-dojo-10-matters-ajax-now-enterprise.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an important milestone in making Ajax safe for the enterprise. We don&#8217;t need another fisheye widget, we need an open source toolkit that can beat Silverlight! Dojo 1.0 may not be the ultimate winner of the Ajax wars, but it sure sets a high bar for any toolkit that wants to beat it as a viable RIA toolkit for the enterprise. I wrote more of my thoughts here:<br />
<a href="http://www.keeneview.com/2007/11/why-dojo-10-matters-ajax-now-enterprise.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.keeneview.com/2007/11/why-dojo-10-matters-ajax-now-enterprise.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/dojo-10-released-the-granddaddy-is-born/comment-page-1#comment-258330</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I like these ajaxian videos, I still have to mention that the audio in this one just like the recent java video gives me a migraine :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I like these ajaxian videos, I still have to mention that the audio in this one just like the recent java video gives me a migraine :(</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fredrik - there are actually many Dojo/Dijit/Dojox examples and demos, but you will need to do some footwork... search for the demos and tests folders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fredrik &#8211; there are actually many Dojo/Dijit/Dojox examples and demos, but you will need to do some footwork&#8230; search for the demos and tests folders.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see the milestone reached! 
but.. where&#039;s all the bling-bling demos and examples showing of the new (and old) stuf?</description>
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but.. where&#8217;s all the bling-bling demos and examples showing of the new (and old) stuf?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Holton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Holton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice congrats to the Dojo JS gurus.  I personally need to take another look at Dojo on my next project... there looks like a ton of great stuff there ...specifically like the idea of the Google Gears wrapper/abstraction, very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice congrats to the Dojo JS gurus.  I personally need to take another look at Dojo on my next project&#8230; there looks like a ton of great stuff there &#8230;specifically like the idea of the Google Gears wrapper/abstraction, very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Stephenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Alex, Dylan, and the rest of the team!</description>
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		<title>By: Ludo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo for a great 1.0 release...

Ludo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo for a great 1.0 release&#8230;</p>
<p>Ludo</p>
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		<title>By: dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... not to bash dojox though, btw - there are a lot of great projects in there that are very stable.  another one of it&#039;s &quot;roles&quot; is for projects that don&#039;t really fall under the category of &quot;dojo core&quot; or &quot;widget&quot;, like dojox.offline or dojox.gfx ... Hopefully, the README file in each dojox project folder will assist in determining the usefulness and stability of each project, should you feel you need any of the functionality found within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; not to bash dojox though, btw &#8211; there are a lot of great projects in there that are very stable.  another one of it&#8217;s &#8220;roles&#8221; is for projects that don&#8217;t really fall under the category of &#8220;dojo core&#8221; or &#8220;widget&#8221;, like dojox.offline or dojox.gfx &#8230; Hopefully, the README file in each dojox project folder will assist in determining the usefulness and stability of each project, should you feel you need any of the functionality found within.</p>
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		<title>By: dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@samori - the common &#039;vertical fisheye&#039; problem is usually a failure to include Fisheye.css - also, though most dijits do, Opera 9 is not officially supported by the widget system, and patches are gladly accepted to aid in compatibility. the Fisheye widget is also in dojox - the experimental/extras part of the toolkit - it lives on a separate release cycle than the dojo core and dijit widget system.  It&#039;s also marked &quot;experimental&quot; so you know it&#039;s not production ready. the advantage of having dojox is that the code is there to make more stable and use if stable enough, and very transparent to the developers.  A lot of stuff in dojox &quot;doesn&#039;t work in all browsers&quot;, which is why it&#039;s in dojox - a gestation period before it can be called &quot;stable&quot; ... hope this helps clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@samori &#8211; the common &#8216;vertical fisheye&#8217; problem is usually a failure to include Fisheye.css &#8211; also, though most dijits do, Opera 9 is not officially supported by the widget system, and patches are gladly accepted to aid in compatibility. the Fisheye widget is also in dojox &#8211; the experimental/extras part of the toolkit &#8211; it lives on a separate release cycle than the dojo core and dijit widget system.  It&#8217;s also marked &#8220;experimental&#8221; so you know it&#8217;s not production ready. the advantage of having dojox is that the code is there to make more stable and use if stable enough, and very transparent to the developers.  A lot of stuff in dojox &#8220;doesn&#8217;t work in all browsers&#8221;, which is why it&#8217;s in dojox &#8211; a gestation period before it can be called &#8220;stable&#8221; &#8230; hope this helps clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hip Hip Hooray!

Hopefully this will hit the AOL CDN soon. http://dev.aol.com/dojo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hip Hip Hooray!</p>
<p>Hopefully this will hit the AOL CDN soon. <a href="http://dev.aol.com/dojo" rel="nofollow">http://dev.aol.com/dojo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Samori Gorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samori Gorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just tried the fisheye (version 0.9), IE 7 don&#039;t want it, so as Safari, Firefox renders a vertical fisheye, and Opera took 7 minutes to render the same.

It&#039;s cool to release new version, but it&#039;s even cooler to have something working before you do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried the fisheye (version 0.9), IE 7 don&#8217;t want it, so as Safari, Firefox renders a vertical fisheye, and Opera took 7 minutes to render the same.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s cool to release new version, but it&#8217;s even cooler to have something working before you do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was only thinking of this and wondering when it would happen the other day. Congratulations to everyone involved. I look forward to using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was only thinking of this and wondering when it would happen the other day. Congratulations to everyone involved. I look forward to using it.</p>
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