Comments on: eCirkit: More social networking

By: portrait artist

portrait artist — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:00:28 +0000

Does this site allow customization of a userâ€™s profile just like other networking site?

By: Josh Silverman

Josh Silverman — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:00:15 +0000

Jester, thank you for the list, and I appreciate the feedback good or bad. I actually favor the environment you described, and work within it in other sites. However, for this project, java was the environment it needed to live in, and we will prove it to you. (oh martin – .jsp is an acronym for java server page)

The front end registration is the 80/20 rule, we know.

Speed – tuning and rolling out infrastructure and code daily.
No apologies needed, as long as you use the site. you can call it the biggest piece of shit on the planet.

I don’t in anyway claim this to be the a full release, spelling errors, graphics, etc –

the front end consists of manager.jsp & profile.jsp – and the interface you see although customizable, is just one of many we have in the pool.

Thanks m8 and check back for refinements, we aren’t going anywhere, need another few days at least lol.

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:55:01 +0000

@Dan:

“youâ€™ll spend 5 minutes fuming” – hardly.

“Iâ€™m free to be as much of a jerk as possible” – Yep. The norm I take it?

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:43:46 +0000

I’m not sure which Dan you are referring to, but this Dan made no assertions, and thus required no proof or evidence. I’m free to be as much of a jerk as possible. I’ll spend 30 seconds typing his, but you’ll spend 5 minutes fuming. And that, kind sir, will delay the next generation dynamic websites. Which is a pity.

By: Martin

Martin — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:46:32 +0000

Hey Bradley, here, take a cookie, you are leaking foam from your mouth. How did I ever dare to criticise? You guys are sure the uber-cool, we certainly are just meager worms that simply cannot understand your genius. I bow towards your general direction.

By: Jester

Jester — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:49:11 +0000

well done for the overall coding of the site m8, its very intuitive, i myself cannot comment on graphical look and feel as i am shockingly bad at it !!, (give me a *nix terminal over a gui any day of the week), unfortunately the front end user doesnt care about backend code all they want is a pretty MacX / Winblows clone in front of thier eyes, in my opinion its so they can feel comfortable and not overwhelmed @ learning something new…., i deal with this all day long in my job (people not wanting to accept change or the need for change), but as Ajax dawns and spreads its way across the web and we move into the new On demand generation they are going to have to accept that the developers are normally correct !!…

Some points (consturctive)
1. Registration is a bit crammed in..
2. The Aggree checkbox does not check correctly
3. Registration takes quite a while (can see people getting bored with ti and closing the browser window)
4. Login takes quite a while on both IE7 and FF2.x and what i presume is java is hogging my laptop resources making viewing other windows harder..
5. I like thedragging and dropping of friends and the tooltips that appear when it is done, its very clever and pleasing on the eye…
6. i also like the `Main Menu`flashy thing but feel it doesnt go with the overall look of the site ..

Sorry to dismiss your hardwork ni a few points but its not meant to be harsh; just some constructive critisism… i know all to well how it feels to put alot of effort into something and have it fall flat one its arse !!…

one final point … if i wouldve undertaken this challenege i would not have used .jsp.
In my (limited experiance) this project would work faster, more efficiant and cleaner simply using php, ajax, mysql and some lovely cutting edge CSS designs ..

PS excuse the spelling !!
Good luck with eCirkit i hope it all works out for you
/Jester

By: Bradley Farrell - BUTTUZ4EVA eCirkit

Bradley Farrell - BUTTUZ4EVA eCirkit — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:41:40 +0000

Ajax 2 and rey I believe from your posts here that you two are truly the only guys that have engaged in this conversation that are happy in your life…I invite all of you here to please post up some things that you have made in Ajax and or designed, please help me see the artistic abilities that you all hold so close to your bosom.

By: Josh Silverman

Josh Silverman — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:14:47 +0000

Ajax 2, Rey – i actually mixed up your names, sorry, slip. Rey, will be in touch, contact me on ecirkit or email josh@.org anytime.

registration update tomorrow so let’s wait to see next roll. ty 4 input, look forward to your thoughts. thanks.

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:21:45 +0000

@Dan: You’re right, you didn’t directly attack this specific site; you attacked the specific niche that they address with a rude diatribe and nothing but a half-baked opinion with no info to substantiate your assertion. So if you simply chose to bypass these sites or at the very least offered up something that could back your assertions, then you’d be less likely to have someone actually challenge your nonsensical postings and we would all be in a better place.

By: Martin

Martin — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:15:01 +0000

Social Networking is a played out marketing term now. So I suggest some new meaningless hot-air descriptions. How about “Multi Level Networking Site” or “Universal Communications Tool Built By Users For Users”? :-)

By: Astor

Astor — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:45:15 +0000

I hate to say it but the design is hideous.

I would try it, but as other comments have stated,
the look and feel is flawed.

By: Jaimz

Jaimz — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:42:18 +0000

it doesn’t work at all if you disable javascript! that’s stickin it to the man!

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:29:07 +0000

@Rey: I never bashed this particular site, or in fact any social networking site. I commented on the explosive trend of social networking sites as it relates to the human experience and the premature end of the universe. Since I don’t have a great urge to contribute to such events, I did not play with the site. If you read all the words in sentences, then let them process through your brain before starting to type we would all be in a better place. As for requiring “proof” before commenting, the last time I checked I didn’t need proof of anything to have an opinion. I’ll let you get back to building next generation dynamic websites. Please, be sure to post them when they are completed. I won’t play with them, but I will have an opinion.

By: Ajax 2.0 Developer

Ajax 2.0 Developer — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:06:45 +0000

Josh, just FYI, I think you reading the authors wrong on your responses. The author is on the bottom of the comment, not the top. It confuses me too, why can’t the author be at the top of a comment?

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:57:02 +0000

Josh, ping me via email to discuss this further: rey [at] iambright dot com. I’d like to offer some more help.

By: Josh Silverman - sWanK from eCirkit

Josh Silverman - sWanK from eCirkit — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:06:57 +0000

Thank you to everyone for your feedback. Good and bad. Jester, you are funny bro, my bad for clowning on you, no place for a flame war. When we release the battle feature on eCirkit we can pick that up ; ).

We are by no means are making a claim that this is a full release, and I am the first to recognize shortcomings.

Rey, as an open source warrior, a profitability model was not on my mind when we started this , it grew on it’s own. The reward is what we have acomplished, and that is enough for me. If monetary rewards comes with it, that is the topping on the cake.

Advertising is one obvious revenue stream, but Bradley and I will never allow banners leaderboards, intrusive ads, and the likes on eCirkit. We rather tell the “win a free ipod” wholesalers to keep thier money than pollute our network for the sake of pushing useless banners on people.

AJAX 2.0 – thank you very much for the reg suggestion, and it is being refined for next rollout (tomorrow or tonight) . If i said we spent 364 days on the back end framework and 2 on the fromt end registration, that would be truthful.

regarding your question on overall performance:
Truth is, we could eliminate Rico & dojo from the equation completely at this point… Dojo was used heavily in our alpha & beta Mark 1, less so now.
dojo may be slowing us down at this point (no poke at DOJO! ), so we may pull it out, same goes for rico.

Dojo & Rico are both fantastic toolsets, and I have the utmost respect for what they have accomplished. I want that to be very clear.

I will keep you posted!

Oh – Lon – Thanks for the bug report and critique, very helpful. Does weather.com cover amsterdam? That feed is a placeholder, so look out the window for now while we debug that ; )

I.E. 6 – We aren’t ie6 compliant becasue we chose not to be for now.

By: weebo

weebo — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:04:38 +0000

I didn’t see anywhere on the site where I could apply to get a refund on the 10 minutes I wasted by checking out this site.

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:20:10 +0000

@Josh & Bradley: The interface is very slick. I think the registration process needs to be a little more intuitive though. As mentioned before, the alert box probably isn’t the best choice is you’re need to do some synchronous call to complete the registration. It looks like you’re using OpenRico & Dojo. How’s performance overall?

By: Ajax 2.0 Developer

Ajax 2.0 Developer — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:19:52 +0000

I think this is a very cool showcase of technology. It runs plenty fast on my computer. Most of the complaints above are pretty petty (although not supporting IE6 seems like something that would certainly overcome for a wider audience) for this new of product. They certainly don’t get in the way of getting to try out the system. BTW, I am curious what the intended source of revenue is? Will there be advertising? Seems like a enough work to deserve some financial reward …

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:55:40 +0000

@Dan: From the rest of the replies, it seems your issues are definitely far worse than my simple web page. Bradley Farrell said it best,

“I canâ€™t grasp why give your 2 cents when you have not even uploaded a photo or edited your profile? Your quick to judge something when you have no proof to back any of this up.”

Feel free to contribute *anything* you’ve built of redeeming value before mouthing off.