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	<title>Comments on: Even Crazier Times: HTML Rendering&#8230; in Flash</title>
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		<title>By: jayarjo</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-276022</link>
		<dc:creator>jayarjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does crash in Chrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does crash in Chrome.</p>
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		<title>By: V1</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-276005</link>
		<dc:creator>V1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;” In the end we already have ActionScript which is much faster and more powerful then a runtime JavaScript parser will ever be”&quot;

Firefox 3.5 and Actionscript 3.0 both use the Mozilla tracemonkey JIT engine to compile ecmascript to bytecode... 

So ActionScript and JavaScript will use the same engine type in FF 3.5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;” In the end we already have ActionScript which is much faster and more powerful then a runtime JavaScript parser will ever be”&#8221;</p>
<p>Firefox 3.5 and Actionscript 3.0 both use the Mozilla tracemonkey JIT engine to compile ecmascript to bytecode&#8230; </p>
<p>So ActionScript and JavaScript will use the same engine type in FF 3.5.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusco</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275975</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last commit date shows February 2008. Why took it so long for Ajaxian to publish this ? Just a late birthday present ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last commit date shows February 2008. Why took it so long for Ajaxian to publish this ? Just a late birthday present ?</p>
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		<title>By: AndiSkater</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275972</link>
		<dc:creator>AndiSkater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any benchmarks, but javascript (at least in webkit) should not be much slower than AS3. The biggest problem ob JavaScript right now is the lack of a &quot;ByteArray&quot; binary data type. Strings or normals Arrays are just not as fast as a native ByteArray type can be. I hope this will change in near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any benchmarks, but javascript (at least in webkit) should not be much slower than AS3. The biggest problem ob JavaScript right now is the lack of a &#8220;ByteArray&#8221; binary data type. Strings or normals Arrays are just not as fast as a native ByteArray type can be. I hope this will change in near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Breton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275971</link>
		<dc:creator>Breton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; In the end we already have ActionScript which is much faster and more powerful then a runtime JavaScript parser will ever be&quot;
.
So... How&#039;s that cave you&#039;ve been living in the last 2 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; In the end we already have ActionScript which is much faster and more powerful then a runtime JavaScript parser will ever be&#8221;<br />
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So&#8230; How&#8217;s that cave you&#8217;ve been living in the last 2 years?</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainN</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275970</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think it makes a lot of sense to ship your renderer with your document- call me tired of browser incompatibility. ;-P

There are actually a bunch of other actionscript projects that have been trying to do this for years, including one called DENG. There is also basic html support in the Flex Framework 4.x (and in Text Layout Framework - same code base).

http://deng.com.br/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think it makes a lot of sense to ship your renderer with your document- call me tired of browser incompatibility. ;-P</p>
<p>There are actually a bunch of other actionscript projects that have been trying to do this for years, including one called DENG. There is also basic html support in the Flex Framework 4.x (and in Text Layout Framework &#8211; same code base).</p>
<p><a href="http://deng.com.br/" rel="nofollow">http://deng.com.br/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AndiSkater</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275969</link>
		<dc:creator>AndiSkater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe could include the Webkit version they ship as part of AIR with the Flash Player. I head they don&#039;t want to do this because it would increase the download size of the Flash Plugin... In my opinion this is stupid, if they included a current webkit with Flash and this new version of the Flash Plugin had spread across enough computers many web developers would consider using Flash for rendering in Internet Explorer. In comparison to Chrome Frame the Flash Plugin is already installed on most computers and is also allowed in most corporate IE6 environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe could include the Webkit version they ship as part of AIR with the Flash Player. I head they don&#8217;t want to do this because it would increase the download size of the Flash Plugin&#8230; In my opinion this is stupid, if they included a current webkit with Flash and this new version of the Flash Plugin had spread across enough computers many web developers would consider using Flash for rendering in Internet Explorer. In comparison to Chrome Frame the Flash Plugin is already installed on most computers and is also allowed in most corporate IE6 environments.</p>
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		<title>By: justinph</title>
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		<dc:creator>justinph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, lovely. Reinventing the wheel by using 12 smaller wheels.

I honestly can&#039;t decide if this is something that some people might consider useful or if it&#039;s a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, lovely. Reinventing the wheel by using 12 smaller wheels.</p>
<p>I honestly can&#8217;t decide if this is something that some people might consider useful or if it&#8217;s a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: MartijnHoutman</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275964</link>
		<dc:creator>MartijnHoutman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks very good! 

We&#039;ve been working on an AS3 HTML/CSS parser, and we are currently including it in one of our projects. It works pretty well, but we&#039;re just using it, because of some legacy systems spitting out HTML code, but the data needs to be rendered in Flash. We only support a small subset of HTML elements, as well as CSS properties, although we also incorporated a few HTML5 and CSS3 elements/properties.

We might release our code under an open license. What will the license of Wrapper be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks very good! </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been working on an AS3 HTML/CSS parser, and we are currently including it in one of our projects. It works pretty well, but we&#8217;re just using it, because of some legacy systems spitting out HTML code, but the data needs to be rendered in Flash. We only support a small subset of HTML elements, as well as CSS properties, although we also incorporated a few HTML5 and CSS3 elements/properties.</p>
<p>We might release our code under an open license. What will the license of Wrapper be?</p>
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		<title>By: talltyler</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275963</link>
		<dc:creator>talltyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a few projects that can create output to Flash or HTML/JavaScript. Most of you probably know about Openlaszlo and there is also Haxe which can compile to a number of other languages also, JavaScript, Flash, PHP and many more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a few projects that can create output to Flash or HTML/JavaScript. Most of you probably know about Openlaszlo and there is also Haxe which can compile to a number of other languages also, JavaScript, Flash, PHP and many more.</p>
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		<title>By: zachleat</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/even-crazier-times-html-rendering-in-flash/comment-page-1#comment-275961</link>
		<dc:creator>zachleat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Google&#039;s ChromeFrame in Flash? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Google&#8217;s ChromeFrame in Flash? :)</p>
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		<title>By: pmontrasio</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmontrasio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next big one will be a tool to convert Flash into JavaScript/HTML/CSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next big one will be a tool to convert Flash into JavaScript/HTML/CSS.</p>
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		<title>By: V1</title>
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		<dc:creator>V1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats next, ActionScript parsing JavaScript ;)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats next, ActionScript parsing JavaScript ;)?</p>
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