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		<title>By: nunziofiore</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-272325</link>
		<dc:creator>nunziofiore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great service. I use it in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moonkiki.com/moogenda/moogendaWEEK.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;web app&lt;/a&gt; in this days (as i said in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://moonkiki.blogspot.com/2009/02/moogenda-first-scream-this-is-hard-code.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great service. I use it in my <a href="http://www.moonkiki.com/moogenda/moogendaWEEK.html" rel="nofollow">web app</a> in this days (as i said in my <a href="http://moonkiki.blogspot.com/2009/02/moogenda-first-scream-this-is-hard-code.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271379</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have to fight with hackers - I mean against hackers :))))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have to fight with hackers &#8211; I mean against hackers :))))</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271378</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi people!

I see a lot of responses since my last visit. First of all I would like to inform you that we have upgraded the web-site. Now the web-site uses a different &quot;preview algorithm&quot; We had received a lot of requests for particular upgrades, and voila... we have completed them. So now it is even more usable, you can contact us from the web-site and... of course more new preloaders :).

Regarding the questions of PNG stuff. Thanks to ArianStolwijk for the tool - very useful, and as I said, we will consider the PNG gererating in future.

To Nosredna - I have made the error more informative that explains the reason of the images not generated - this is an antiflood system. Sorry if it brings some difficulties, but we have to fight with hackers :).

With best regards,
Pratamishus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi people!</p>
<p>I see a lot of responses since my last visit. First of all I would like to inform you that we have upgraded the web-site. Now the web-site uses a different &#8220;preview algorithm&#8221; We had received a lot of requests for particular upgrades, and voila&#8230; we have completed them. So now it is even more usable, you can contact us from the web-site and&#8230; of course more new preloaders :).</p>
<p>Regarding the questions of PNG stuff. Thanks to ArianStolwijk for the tool &#8211; very useful, and as I said, we will consider the PNG gererating in future.</p>
<p>To Nosredna &#8211; I have made the error more informative that explains the reason of the images not generated &#8211; this is an antiflood system. Sorry if it brings some difficulties, but we have to fight with hackers :).</p>
<p>With best regards,<br />
Pratamishus</p>
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		<title>By: ArianStolwijk</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271032</link>
		<dc:creator>ArianStolwijk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,

Some people above talked about a javascript png animation.
So I created a mootools class to create a animated png.

You can find it here: http://www.aryweb.nl/voorbeelden/apng/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>Some people above talked about a javascript png animation.<br />
So I created a mootools class to create a animated png.</p>
<p>You can find it here: <a href="http://www.aryweb.nl/voorbeelden/apng/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aryweb.nl/voorbeelden/apng/</a></p>
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		<title>By: iliad</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271017</link>
		<dc:creator>iliad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very very cool! Kudos pratamishus.</description>
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		<title>By: broofa</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271016</link>
		<dc:creator>broofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pratamishus: re: PNG support, a couple quick comments ...

For starters, I don&#039;t think you need to decide on a javascript animation library - just provide the raw PNG image of animation frames.  People will write their own, or find one that works for them.  If/when they do, you can recommend that and possibly even provide the necessary JS code as part of the preloader download.

As for your current GIF transparency option, I do wonder what the point of that is.  1-bit transparency looks butt-ugly unless it&#039;s composited onto a background of the same color... in which case you might as well just render the animation with that color in the background.

My .$02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pratamishus: re: PNG support, a couple quick comments &#8230;</p>
<p>For starters, I don&#8217;t think you need to decide on a javascript animation library &#8211; just provide the raw PNG image of animation frames.  People will write their own, or find one that works for them.  If/when they do, you can recommend that and possibly even provide the necessary JS code as part of the preloader download.</p>
<p>As for your current GIF transparency option, I do wonder what the point of that is.  1-bit transparency looks butt-ugly unless it&#8217;s composited onto a background of the same color&#8230; in which case you might as well just render the animation with that color in the background.</p>
<p>My .$02.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosredna</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271007</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosredna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting a lot of broken images as results. Too much load from Ajaxian traffic?</description>
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		<title>By: nunziofiore</title>
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		<dc:creator>nunziofiore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pratamishus , i know. I meant that if You release the wiat lineard 2d as png in multilevel, as someone before me said, it can be useful too for progrsse bar non unlimited ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pratamishus , i know. I meant that if You release the wiat lineard 2d as png in multilevel, as someone before me said, it can be useful too for progrsse bar non unlimited ;)</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-271000</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; nunziofiore: this is just an image generator. A progress bar could be useful in case javascript is added... which is far beyond the current functionality. But we will consider this in future....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&gt; nunziofiore: this is just an image generator. A progress bar could be useful in case javascript is added&#8230; which is far beyond the current functionality. But we will consider this in future&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nunziofiore</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-270997</link>
		<dc:creator>nunziofiore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, a progress bar, for example, divided in this way can be used not only for unlimited wait pupose, but also for a percentual of complete action, for example... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, a progress bar, for example, divided in this way can be used not only for unlimited wait pupose, but also for a percentual of complete action, for example&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-270996</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; oopstudios - moving the loading stuff to the right... yeah... that is a good idea... I will consult our designer about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&gt; oopstudios &#8211; moving the loading stuff to the right&#8230; yeah&#8230; that is a good idea&#8230; I will consult our designer about it.</p>
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		<title>By: oopstudios</title>
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		<dc:creator>oopstudios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, agreed on the &quot;paininthearse&quot; factor of doing it in the ideal way. How you have it thusfar is perfect in terms of simplicity and usability,  keep it up!

I&#039;m with Broofa on the PNG spriting idea! Maybe we can find a nice, clean, small animation javascript lib that would go with it perfectly? Now that would be woopedy-good!

Also, how about having the images load into the right-column rather than a lightbox? Replacing the &quot;How-To&quot; is OK as you can assume they&#039;ve given it a once over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, agreed on the &#8220;paininthearse&#8221; factor of doing it in the ideal way. How you have it thusfar is perfect in terms of simplicity and usability,  keep it up!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Broofa on the PNG spriting idea! Maybe we can find a nice, clean, small animation javascript lib that would go with it perfectly? Now that would be woopedy-good!</p>
<p>Also, how about having the images load into the right-column rather than a lightbox? Replacing the &#8220;How-To&#8221; is OK as you can assume they&#8217;ve given it a once over!</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-270993</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; broofa: Well... PNG is a good idea. this is a bit different concept from what we have now. This could be a next step. We will consider it for future development. Maybe this will be an advancement to the project. Coz one of the main features of this project was - simplicity... Thank you broofa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&gt; broofa: Well&#8230; PNG is a good idea. this is a bit different concept from what we have now. This could be a next step. We will consider it for future development. Maybe this will be an advancement to the project. Coz one of the main features of this project was &#8211; simplicity&#8230; Thank you broofa</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/forget-chuck-preloaders-3d-right-now/comment-page-1#comment-270992</link>
		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... as far as I understand, this was about the new 3D technology era. You see, before the projects of this kind used to make the preloaders in 2D. The newly opened project is couple of step ahead from others, while all others are just getting their audience with banal &quot;beautiful women&quot;.

That&#039;s what I got from that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; as far as I understand, this was about the new 3D technology era. You see, before the projects of this kind used to make the preloaders in 2D. The newly opened project is couple of step ahead from others, while all others are just getting their audience with banal &#8220;beautiful women&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I got from that :)</p>
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		<title>By: broofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>broofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@paramishus:  Very cool animations!  However, they would be much more useful (to me at least) if there were a way to get a PNG version, with full 8-bit transparency.

Yes, I know PNG doesn&#039;t support animation.  What I&#039;d like is a single PNG that has each frame stacked one above the other.  I could then set this as a CSS background and use JS to adjust the background position on a timer to do the animation.

How hard would that be to produce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@paramishus:  Very cool animations!  However, they would be much more useful (to me at least) if there were a way to get a PNG version, with full 8-bit transparency.</p>
<p>Yes, I know PNG doesn&#8217;t support animation.  What I&#8217;d like is a single PNG that has each frame stacked one above the other.  I could then set this as a CSS background and use JS to adjust the background position on a timer to do the animation.</p>
<p>How hard would that be to produce?</p>
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		<title>By: broofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>broofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I enjoy the US show Chuck (maybe because a geeky guy gets to hang with a beautiful woman? :)&quot;

Quick, name all the TV Shows where geeky guys get to hang with a beautiful woman!   The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Family Matters, Bewitched, Gilligan&#039;s Island, Saved By The Bell, Frasier, Cheers ... and that&#039;s just sitcoms.  Hmm, it might be easier to name the shows that have nerds that &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; get to hang with a beautiful woman.  Are there any???

Wait, what was this post about again...?  (aside from providing an excuse to try out the new whitespace on paragraph comments - thanks, Dion!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I enjoy the US show Chuck (maybe because a geeky guy gets to hang with a beautiful woman? :)&#8221;</p>
<p>Quick, name all the TV Shows where geeky guys get to hang with a beautiful woman!   The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Family Matters, Bewitched, Gilligan&#8217;s Island, Saved By The Bell, Frasier, Cheers &#8230; and that&#8217;s just sitcoms.  Hmm, it might be easier to name the shows that have nerds that <em>don&#8217;t</em> get to hang with a beautiful woman.  Are there any???</p>
<p>Wait, what was this post about again&#8230;?  (aside from providing an excuse to try out the new whitespace on paragraph comments &#8211; thanks, Dion!)</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
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		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; oopstudios - The system uses both - &quot;FPS&quot; change and frames amount in combination for speed change. You are right - this IS quite a pain just to make the frames amount vary, because in this case, the animations may jump crazily :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&gt; oopstudios &#8211; The system uses both &#8211; &#8220;FPS&#8221; change and frames amount in combination for speed change. You are right &#8211; this IS quite a pain just to make the frames amount vary, because in this case, the animations may jump crazily :).</p>
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		<title>By: oopstudios</title>
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		<dc:creator>oopstudios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice concept! A little disappointed that the speed choice merely sets the gif frame length rather than keeping it smooth! A good solution would be to render each animation with varying number of frames, keeping the &quot;FPS&quot; the same... But that&#039;s a right pain I imagine! Fine work, 5star</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice concept! A little disappointed that the speed choice merely sets the gif frame length rather than keeping it smooth! A good solution would be to render each animation with varying number of frames, keeping the &#8220;FPS&#8221; the same&#8230; But that&#8217;s a right pain I imagine! Fine work, 5star</p>
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		<title>By: pratamishus</title>
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		<dc:creator>pratamishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the images are open source...</description>
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		<title>By: sos</title>
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		<dc:creator>sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the licenses for the images?  Are they Open Source?  GPL, LGPL, Apache...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the licenses for the images?  Are they Open Source?  GPL, LGPL, Apache&#8230;?</p>
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