Comments on: Apple isn’t developing a Flash alternative named Gianduia http://ajaxian.com/archives/gianduia Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: timo888 http://ajaxian.com/archives/gianduia/comment-page-1#comment-283566 timo888 Tue, 11 May 2010 17:16:49 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=9245#comment-283566 "Gianduia ... a way for Cocoa developers to bring their skills to rich online applications built using web standards..." So is Gianduia Apple's countertpart to the toolkits (Google GWT or perhaps Qooxdoo) in which you develop in java and cross-compile to javascript? Only with Gianduia you'd be writing in Objective-C? “Gianduia … a way for Cocoa developers to bring their skills to rich online applications built using web standards…”

So is Gianduia Apple’s countertpart to the toolkits (Google GWT or perhaps Qooxdoo) in which you develop in java and cross-compile to javascript? Only with Gianduia you’d be writing in Objective-C?

]]> By: JonBad http://ajaxian.com/archives/gianduia/comment-page-1#comment-283549 JonBad Tue, 11 May 2010 00:20:16 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=9245#comment-283549 I saw a similar article by Jim Dalrymple (Report: Apple developing a Flash alternative - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20004509-37.html) over the weekend. I tweeted him back thinking he was crazy as I saw no connection between this and Flash. At the very least it doesn't have anything to do w/ the Flash vs. Apple controversy type of Flash. I called him on it and his response was "I guess it depends on how positions and uses the tech." I'm more inclined to think he may be an idiot. I saw a similar article by Jim Dalrymple (Report: Apple developing a Flash alternative – http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20004509-37.html) over the weekend. I tweeted him back thinking he was crazy as I saw no connection between this and Flash. At the very least it doesn’t have anything to do w/ the Flash vs. Apple controversy type of Flash. I called him on it and his response was “I guess it depends on how positions and uses the tech.” I’m more inclined to think he may be an idiot.

]]> By: JohnAllsopp http://ajaxian.com/archives/gianduia/comment-page-1#comment-283548 JohnAllsopp Mon, 10 May 2010 23:15:44 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=9245#comment-283548 A question is just how much interest developers actually have in such libraries. Right now, despite considerable coverage of Cappuccino, Sproutcore, and so on, and attendant excitement from many quarters, there's evidence to suggest that not very many developers are actually using them. http://www.webdirections.org/sotw10/script/#javascript-libraries This is not to criticize what are clearly powerful, sophisticated libraries. Rather, it would seem that the UX patterns which underpin them, which come from the desktop app world may not be translating strongly to the world of web based applications. I guess the meta question is, will applications in 5 years time, almost all of which I'd contend will be running on top of web technologies looks much like those of the desktop today? I'm predicting not. A question is just how much interest developers actually have in such libraries. Right now, despite considerable coverage of Cappuccino, Sproutcore, and so on, and attendant excitement from many quarters, there’s evidence to suggest that not very many developers are actually using them.

http://www.webdirections.org/sotw10/script/#javascript-libraries

This is not to criticize what are clearly powerful, sophisticated libraries. Rather, it would seem that the UX patterns which underpin them, which come from the desktop app world may not be translating strongly to the world of web based applications.

I guess the meta question is, will applications in 5 years time, almost all of which I’d contend will be running on top of web technologies looks much like those of the desktop today? I’m predicting not.

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