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	<title>Comments on: Google releases GWT for JavaScript 2</title>
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		<title>By: gavindoughtie</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-releases-gwt-for-javascript-2/comment-page-1#comment-262598</link>
		<dc:creator>gavindoughtie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one love the high-level programming styles afforded by JS, and find Java repulsively verbose by comparison, but I *do* envy the browser elision that GWT supplies. I was really hopeful for a minute here, because Reader had timestamped this March 31st.

In response to an earlier comment, the Google compiler is a &quot;real&quot; compiler, not just a minifier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one love the high-level programming styles afforded by JS, and find Java repulsively verbose by comparison, but I *do* envy the browser elision that GWT supplies. I was really hopeful for a minute here, because Reader had timestamped this March 31st.</p>
<p>In response to an earlier comment, the Google compiler is a &#8220;real&#8221; compiler, not just a minifier.</p>
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		<title>By: NikhilKothari</title>
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		<dc:creator>NikhilKothari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... nice shot at the April fools tradition :-)

I can&#039;t help but wonder how much this seeming joke is meant to signal actual intent/thought. I&#039;ve certainly thought of doing something similar with &lt;a href=&quot;http://projects.nikhilk.net/ScriptSharp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Script#&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; nice shot at the April fools tradition :-)</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder how much this seeming joke is meant to signal actual intent/thought. I&#8217;ve certainly thought of doing something similar with <a href="http://projects.nikhilk.net/ScriptSharp" rel="nofollow">Script#</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: heswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>heswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right regarding performance, and I can&#039; t wait to play with ScreamingMonkey, my  reservation regarding plugin solutions is more about deployment/availability - a plugin is only good if my user has it installed. If they do and this can be detected...fine, let them benefit from JS2 as well, but if not, then give them generated jscript 1.5. 
I don&#039;t really beleive GWT will deliver this, but it seems a plausible approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right regarding performance, and I can&#8217; t wait to play with ScreamingMonkey, my  reservation regarding plugin solutions is more about deployment/availability &#8211; a plugin is only good if my user has it installed. If they do and this can be detected&#8230;fine, let them benefit from JS2 as well, but if not, then give them generated jscript 1.5.<br />
I don&#8217;t really beleive GWT will deliver this, but it seems a plausible approach.</p>
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		<title>By: BrendanEich</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrendanEich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heswell: it&#039;s an open question how poorly plugins will perform, compared to &quot;lowering&quot; JS2 to JS1. ScreamingMonkey lives, Mark Hammond has it running inside IE, doing the Mix07 chess demo that Microsoft showed with C# and JScript versions.

/be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heswell: it&#8217;s an open question how poorly plugins will perform, compared to &#8220;lowering&#8221; JS2 to JS1. ScreamingMonkey lives, Mark Hammond has it running inside IE, doing the Mix07 chess demo that Microsoft showed with C# and JScript versions.</p>
<p>/be</p>
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		<title>By: sandrejev</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandrejev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, but is it technically even a compiler. A code optimizer at most I would say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, but is it technically even a compiler. A code optimizer at most I would say!</p>
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		<title>By: RichB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google already have a JSCompiler tool which performs static analysis and optimization on JavaScript. Apart from the lack of any standard JavaScript class libraries, it&#039;s easy to see JSCompiler being used in this hypothetical way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google already have a JSCompiler tool which performs static analysis and optimization on JavaScript. Apart from the lack of any standard JavaScript class libraries, it&#8217;s easy to see JSCompiler being used in this hypothetical way.</p>
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		<title>By: heswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>heswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April fool notwithstanding, this is of course a very good idea and neatly solves the javascript 2 dilemma (the dilemma being that IE will never implement it, and plugin solutions will never be the best answer). Write apps in JS2, let them run natively in JS2 browsers and have GWT emit old-school javascript for IE, brilliant, and never have to touch no stinking java !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April fool notwithstanding, this is of course a very good idea and neatly solves the javascript 2 dilemma (the dilemma being that IE will never implement it, and plugin solutions will never be the best answer). Write apps in JS2, let them run natively in JS2 browsers and have GWT emit old-school javascript for IE, brilliant, and never have to touch no stinking java !</p>
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		<title>By: savetheclocktower</title>
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		<dc:creator>savetheclocktower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s going to be a long day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s going to be a long day.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice attempt Dion :D
&quot;Tuesday, April 1st, 2008&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice attempt Dion :D<br />
&#8220;Tuesday, April 1st, 2008&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: sandrejev</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandrejev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compile javascript into javascript? :) Is that google&#039;s april 1 joke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compile javascript into javascript? :) Is that google&#8217;s april 1 joke?</p>
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