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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-125538</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the information on these things private?  As in, can Google people read calendars and spreadsheets?  Are they excluded the same way those not chosen for sharing are excluded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the information on these things private?  As in, can Google people read calendars and spreadsheets?  Are they excluded the same way those not chosen for sharing are excluded?</p>
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		<title>By: David's blog</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-23621</link>
		<dc:creator>David's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dan Bricklin and WikiCalc&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dan Bricklin and WikiCalc</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Gerard @ Interweb World</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21863</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard @ Interweb World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big spreadsheets fan, so when I got my invite, I pottered about for a minute or two and lost interest. Yes, it seems to work OK, but spreadsheets aren&#039;t exactly a &#039;killer&#039; app.

I didn&#039;t realise there was so much competition in the arena though. What with Gmail and Google Calendar, I think I&#039;ve reached the threshold for private information I&#039;m willing to share with any one company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big spreadsheets fan, so when I got my invite, I pottered about for a minute or two and lost interest. Yes, it seems to work OK, but spreadsheets aren&#8217;t exactly a &#8216;killer&#8217; app.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realise there was so much competition in the arena though. What with Gmail and Google Calendar, I think I&#8217;ve reached the threshold for private information I&#8217;m willing to share with any one company!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Musgrove</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21738</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Musgrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kingsley,
Pivot tables are not about dynamic data sources although those can be used.  Pivot tables are about summarizing data easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kingsley,<br />
Pivot tables are not about dynamic data sources although those can be used.  Pivot tables are about summarizing data easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21624</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, what data will be you be willing to share? Your companies bottom line?&lt;/i&gt;

But Google spreadsheets is being targeted at the home market (at least at first) - so it&#039;s more about sharing things like &quot;Little League Tables&quot; (as the sneak peak shows) rather than next years budgets for SuperMegaCorp. 

All the &quot;but business users won&#039;t want to use this&quot; comments I&#039;ve been seeing everywhre make about as much sense as people saying that &quot;business users won&#039;t want to use gmail&quot; - while there may be  business targeted version of spreadsheets in the future, it&#039;s not that way now - just like how when gmail came out it wasn&#039;t for business users and it still isn&#039;t - the &quot;business gmail&quot; is sort of a seperate product. I guess people forget that spreadsheets aren&#039;t just a business tool. My main question about Google Spreadsheets is will it force Microsoft to launch a free &quot;Live Excel&quot; and will that cause Microsoft to canabalize itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, what data will be you be willing to share? Your companies bottom line?</i></p>
<p>But Google spreadsheets is being targeted at the home market (at least at first) &#8211; so it&#8217;s more about sharing things like &#8220;Little League Tables&#8221; (as the sneak peak shows) rather than next years budgets for SuperMegaCorp. </p>
<p>All the &#8220;but business users won&#8217;t want to use this&#8221; comments I&#8217;ve been seeing everywhre make about as much sense as people saying that &#8220;business users won&#8217;t want to use gmail&#8221; &#8211; while there may be  business targeted version of spreadsheets in the future, it&#8217;s not that way now &#8211; just like how when gmail came out it wasn&#8217;t for business users and it still isn&#8217;t &#8211; the &#8220;business gmail&#8221; is sort of a seperate product. I guess people forget that spreadsheets aren&#8217;t just a business tool. My main question about Google Spreadsheets is will it force Microsoft to launch a free &#8220;Live Excel&#8221; and will that cause Microsoft to canabalize itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Ajaxian Â» Google Spreadsheets at blackrimglasses.com</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21532</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajaxian Â» Google Spreadsheets at blackrimglasses.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ajaxian Â» Google Spreadsheets: wow! Its like Visicalc in Ajax! So this is progress? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ajaxian Â» Google Spreadsheets: wow! Its like Visicalc in Ajax! So this is progress? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21499</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://zohosheet.com/home.do

uses Prototype framework supports formulas and graphs. Woot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://zohosheet.com/home.do" rel="nofollow">http://zohosheet.com/home.do</a></p>
<p>uses Prototype framework supports formulas and graphs. Woot.</p>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google and the Desktop</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21401</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google and the Desktop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] M (sarcastically): That is a great idea! How long before you think Google takes GIMP and ajaxifies it and releases it? Look itâ€™ll have Photoshop import/export! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] M (sarcastically): That is a great idea! How long before you think Google takes GIMP and ajaxifies it and releases it? Look itâ€™ll have Photoshop import/export! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21368</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to my web (aka blog) in my earlier posts contained a typo. The link associated with this post is correct (i.e. http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ )

Sorry for the multiple post :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to my web (aka blog) in my earlier posts contained a typo. The link associated with this post is correct (i.e. <a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/</a> )</p>
<p>Sorry for the multiple post :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21366</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - The demo links work best with Firefox, IE (maybe)  and Webkit (instead of current Safari if using Mac OS X)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; The demo links work best with Firefox, IE (maybe)  and Webkit (instead of current Safari if using Mac OS X)</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21363</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attempting to compete against Excel without Pivot Table functionality is fundamentally problematic. And when I refer to &quot;Pivot Tables&quot; I am not referring to data hosted in worksheets that are local to Excel. I mean the powerful ability to bind to remote data sources via technologies such as ODBC.

In the modern Web era we are increasingly exposed to data via loosely coupled data sources such as many of the Web 2.0 style &quot;points of presence&quot;, and it is this kind of binding via an Ajax based spreadsheet that would genuinely introduce functionality worthy of comparison with Excel with the advantage of data binding in a modern context.

To see what I mean you can take a look at the Ajax based pivot table which is bound to remote DBMS hosted data via a technology (from my company) called &quot;Ajax Database Connectivity&quot; at: http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/Pivots/employee_sales_by_ship_country_pivot.xml (username: demo and password: demo)

You can see a collection of Ajax Database Connectivity demos via the directory browse listing at: http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/

The full story about this use of Ajax and the broader OpenLink Ajax Tookit for Database Centric Ajax apps. is covered on my blog (with some screencasts to boot, with more to come).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attempting to compete against Excel without Pivot Table functionality is fundamentally problematic. And when I refer to &#8220;Pivot Tables&#8221; I am not referring to data hosted in worksheets that are local to Excel. I mean the powerful ability to bind to remote data sources via technologies such as ODBC.</p>
<p>In the modern Web era we are increasingly exposed to data via loosely coupled data sources such as many of the Web 2.0 style &#8220;points of presence&#8221;, and it is this kind of binding via an Ajax based spreadsheet that would genuinely introduce functionality worthy of comparison with Excel with the advantage of data binding in a modern context.</p>
<p>To see what I mean you can take a look at the Ajax based pivot table which is bound to remote DBMS hosted data via a technology (from my company) called &#8220;Ajax Database Connectivity&#8221; at: <a href="http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/Pivots/employee_sales_by_ship_country_pivot.xml" rel="nofollow">http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/Pivots/employee_sales_by_ship_country_pivot.xml</a> (username: demo and password: demo)</p>
<p>You can see a collection of Ajax Database Connectivity demos via the directory browse listing at: <a href="http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/" rel="nofollow">http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/home/demo/Public/Reports/</a></p>
<p>The full story about this use of Ajax and the broader OpenLink Ajax Tookit for Database Centric Ajax apps. is covered on my blog (with some screencasts to boot, with more to come).</p>
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		<title>By: kit</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21349</link>
		<dc:creator>kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>were are the charts?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>were are the charts?!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Ratzloff</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21283</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Ratzloff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first link is broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first link is broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Hashim</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21276</link>
		<dc:creator>Hashim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, what data will be you be willing to share? Your companies bottom line?&quot;

You&#039;re not sharing with the world. Your sharing with a select chosen group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, what data will be you be willing to share? Your companies bottom line?&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not sharing with the world. Your sharing with a select chosen group.</p>
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		<title>By: sitemaster</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21258</link>
		<dc:creator>sitemaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>google sucks!
try www.irows.com</description>
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try <a href="http://www.irows.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.irows.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dietrich Kappe</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-spreadsheets/comment-page-1#comment-21224</link>
		<dc:creator>Dietrich Kappe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collaborative spreadsheets are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/06/google_spreadsh.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AJAX killer app du jour&lt;/a&gt;. You have to believe that an intranet version of this is on the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collaborative spreadsheets are the <a href="http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/06/google_spreadsh.html" rel="nofollow">AJAX killer app du jour</a>. You have to believe that an intranet version of this is on the way.</p>
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