Comments on: Hijax: Graceful Degration

By: deniz dizman

deniz dizman — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:53:54 +0000

One point to remember here is that you also need to incorporate a history management framework for the back button to function properly

By: James Revillini

James Revillini — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:05:22 +0000

@ Matthias : I think you’re right that it’s a bad idea to propogate URLs containing verbs altogether. Submissions of requests for action should occur through POSTs, PUTs, and DELETEs which should happen as form submission > interception by javascript > submission to server via xmlhttprequest. If this model is observed, we won’t wind up with URLs like …/action/collection/id (GETs for getting details on an object are just the implied action when you want info on …/collection/id).

Note: I’m brand new to AJAX so if something I said was wrong, cut me a little slack and school me in the wise ways.

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Co Kierepka czyta, wie lub myÅ›li, Å¼e wie :) — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:48:35 +0000

Jak sprawdziÄ‡ czy dana wartoÅ›Ä‡ istnieje w bazie danych, oraz parÄ™ innych wyczytaych "nowoÅ›ci" z blogów, min AJAX, Origami, Hijax…

1) Jak przeszukaÄ‡ wszystkie kolumny we wszystkich tabelach w bazie danych by znaleÅºÄ‡ okreÅ›lony klucz/sÅ‚owo?…

By: Troels Wittrup Jensen

Troels Wittrup Jensen — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:07:52 +0000

But why not let the browser handle the Hijaxing internally?

That’s what happens in the Windows Application framework – the window manager takes care of the screen updates.

Right now Hijax is the window manager for web formsâ€¦

By: mwarden

mwarden — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:30:07 +0000

No, it’s not the “only way”. Like anything else, it depends wholly on the application’s audience. I would way that 90% of AJAX uses would benefit from this paradigm, but that still leaves 10% in an ever-increasing population of audiences of specific-use web-based applications which have been created to replace native desktop applications. This is one of the primary uses of AJAX, so it is not wise to suggest that the “only way” to use AJAX is in a way that degrades gracefully. Doing so will have you left behind.

By: A Comparison of Ajax Frameworks for ASP.NET — Sam’s random musings Archive

Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:51:52 +0000

[...] First, let me explain why only these 6 Frameworks are included although there is a lot more AJAX stuff for ASP.NET out there. All the frameworks listed here have one unique AJAX feature: They allow updating page content without programming AJAX directly – i call it indirect AJAX programming – a compareable concept is called Hijax. [...]

By: Ajaxian » A Comparison of Ajax Frameworks for ASP.NET

Ajaxian » A Comparison of Ajax Frameworks for ASP.NET — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:05:43 +0000

By: Mikael Bergkvist

Mikael Bergkvist — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:15:01 +0000

The degrading happens automatically if you use Xin – (Ajax is assumed to begin with) – you dont have to do anything special server/clientside either way.
http://www.naltabyte.se/howto.htm

By: Richard Collette

Richard Collette — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:02:27 +0000

Matthias,

Why would a get for data update be any different than doing a post?

By: Mortimer

Mortimer — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:02:39 +0000

this href="delete/item/1" is starting to spread over the internet. It is not clear what it is supposed to do. But it is important to insists that this is BAD if it implies deleting data from a database etc…

GET method should not be used for actions that alter data. This should be done with a POST. So to degrade gracefully, the delete action should be supported by a form element.

By: Matthias

Matthias — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:40:49 +0000

Isn’t that what the article said?

By: Gilles

Gilles — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:07:30 +0000

Well this isn’t anything new and not a technique per-se. You can do this (like i do) by using behaviours…

e.g. create a hyperlink (for instance with href=”delete/item/1″), and create a behaviour which you initialize on page load. In this behaviour, the onclick does some ajax stuff and returns false.

And there you have it, excellent fallback!

By: Matthias

Matthias — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:33:06 +0000

If you use Ajax to smarten up your traditional web application, previously built or not, I believe this should be the only way.

I remember at some point early last year there was a european (dutch?) web company that rebuilt their whole web appearance with Ajax, without no-script fallback.
I thought this to be a massive step back for accessibility, and expect many examples to follow; but many others have written about it, I guess I don’t have to elaborate.

Aside from that, you might want to give your technorati tag another “s”.