Comments on: IE 8 now doesn’t trip on Acid

By: Chris Phillips

Chris Phillips — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:50:14 +0000

I wonder if IE8 passed a working Acid2 test: http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/002/ Or the broken Acid2 test: http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html Acid2 on the webstandards site is broken because it uses an invalid embedded link that is returning 200 instead of 404.

By: tj111

tj111 — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:57:19 +0000

Hopefully the release of 8 will get all those lazy SOB’s running IE6 to at least upgrade to IE7. Also, now that they are correctly handling CSS, I hope the fix all their DOM issues (no name attribute for form elements = the bane of my existince).

By: Will Peavy

Will Peavy — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:55:46 +0000

Awesome. Great news. I can’t wait to try out the public beta. And if they really want to make developers happy, they would release a developer version that allows you to run 8 alongside 7 without hacks or virtualization

By: Grimsk

Grimsk — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:16:20 +0000

we’ll need to support ie6, ie7 ie8.. FF.. safari.. etccc….

more CSS and more CSS

why the upgrade isnt Mandatory

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:56:15 +0000

This is good news, and I’d rather wait a bit longer for them to release a great IE8 then a slightly better version of IE7.

By: Joeri

Joeri — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:21:49 +0000

Pete: I don’t expect to support IE6 that long. The main holdouts are companies who haven’t certified IE7 for internal use yet. I expect in a year or two those will have gone ahead and switched over. All that’s left at that point are non-technical home users who don’t update at that point, who you can reasonably require to upgrade to IE7 before they can use your app. So, in short, I expect IE6 to need supporting for one year, maybe two at most, and to then go the way of the dodo.

By: Pete B

Pete B — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:51 +0000

Whatever happens we’ll be supporting ie6 for the next 5 years. But
at least ie8 looks like it will rock – from the video it will support generated content and table,tr,td display types, so table layouts with lots of divs would be doable

By: kim3er

kim3er — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:26:35 +0000

I think this is great news. However, if IE8 isn’t made a critical update, I fear we’ll be catering for IE6 for a while longer.

By: Gonzalo

Gonzalo — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:51:21 +0000

Yes, but then… can we be sure that IE8 renders correctly the correct Acid2?

By: Trevor

Trevor — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:40:10 +0000

“Aandâ€¦ Fx3b2 doesnâ€™t! ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289480#c172 )
It seems a 404 page in the test is now returning a 200. (and from the comments Opera fails too)”

Acid2′s creator has said that the public test page is incorrect, but is hosting it on his site in correct functioning order. The former renders incorrectly in Safari 3.0.4 but the latter doesn’t.

By: Gonzalo

Gonzalo — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:32:54 +0000

Aand… Fx3b2 doesn’t! ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289480#c172 )
It seems a 404 page in the test is now returning a 200. (and from the comments Opera fails too)

By: starkraving

starkraving — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:18:05 +0000

This is great news! I can’t fault them for focusing first on John Q. Public’s needs for the browser, which was more to do with internet security like Phishing and a streamlined UI, since that is definitely a higher percentage (as in almost nearly all) of their market. Now that they’ve got their largest user group satisfied they can start to focus on us. It sounds like that’s exactly what they’re doing. I’m very satisfied with Firefox and can’t see myself switching back to IE but I certainly am looking forward to the first Betas when they come out. Hopefully they’ll “do the right thing” and release it as a standalone product first.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:33:46 +0000

This is great, and well worth the wait. The worst thing, to me, about IE7 was that it seemed to be design-by-marketing in terms of priorities, and IE8 development seems (by the statements of the developers and other MS folks in that video) to be focused on improving relations with real world web developers. And since their attitudes in addressing the Acid2 test are in the right place (not about superficial “correct” rendering, but correct implementation of the features portrayed in the test), we can expect a great deal more improvement with IE8 than previous releases.

To anyone on the IE team reading this, thanks! You’re finally making our lives easier instead of letting your company make our lives harder.

By: Spocke

Spocke — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:13:44 +0000

I hope that they don’t just flush out a IE8 with some quick fixes here and there like the IE7 release, they should have called that one IE6.5. Duct taping up an old browser engine is not what the world needs right now, making an modern browser is the name of the game. I really really hope they make an effort this time.

By: SchizoDuckie

SchizoDuckie — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:52:29 +0000

Ok, so now all they have to do is fix the weird DOM quirks in IE, secure it, make it extendable, fix PNG natively, speed it up times 10, clear about 2000 memory leaks here and there and they *might* be coming to a decent browser :o
Or wait… isn’t that FF3 ?

By: BenRowe

BenRowe — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:34:38 +0000

This and a trailer for Duke Nukem Forever in the same day?

Is it getting cold in here – Satan

By: Viktor Kojouharov

Viktor Kojouharov — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:31:43 +0000

p.s.
In the same day, we get news about DNF, and now about IE passing ACID 2. Hell must feel pretty cold right now. Can’t wait for the four horsemen to start knocking on doors.

By: Viktor Kojouharov

Viktor Kojouharov — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:22:58 +0000

It’s a Lie!

By: Will

Will — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:19:58 +0000

Great news!

By: DiscoNova

DiscoNova — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:19:47 +0000

Well, this certainly sounds quite good news from Redmond. Maybe all is not lost after all :) Now we just need to hope this won’t take forever to get into consumer market – and that the update won’t be “vista only”…