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	<title>Comments on: iPhone Development: Aptana and Morfik</title>
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		<title>By: Fuad Ta'eed</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252164</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuad Ta'eed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, the chess computation is all client side.  Disconnect from the Internet and see it continues to work fine, as long as the browser is kept open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, the chess computation is all client side.  Disconnect from the Internet and see it continues to work fine, as long as the browser is kept open.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252160</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting the error: 

Aptana support for Apple iPhone 01020070681323 requires plug-in com.aptana.ide.core.ui 0.28.15600 or later version

I de-installed the old Aptana version completely and downloaded the newest version and installed it. Upon clicking within Aptana to get the download, a yellow box with the aformentioned error pops up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting the error: </p>
<p>Aptana support for Apple iPhone 01020070681323 requires plug-in com.aptana.ide.core.ui 0.28.15600 or later version</p>
<p>I de-installed the old Aptana version completely and downloaded the newest version and installed it. Upon clicking within Aptana to get the download, a yellow box with the aformentioned error pops up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252158</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the chess computation done on the client side or server side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the chess computation done on the client side or server side?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pedersen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252157</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Pedersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea behind the Aptana plug-in is great, however on Windows; the browser engine for Eclipse/Aptana is IE. Since the iPhone comes with only Safari, you cant really test your layout, or functionality correctly.   What&#039;s nice about building an app solely for the iPhone is that you can leverage webkits&#039;s support for most of the CSS 3 spec and also Canvas.  Since the iPhone is on the edge network (sloooow), the slimmer you can make your app, the better and by using CSS 3 properties such as rounded corners, this is possible.  Does anyone know of a way to plug the new Window&#039;s Safari into Eclipse or Aptana?  If this integration is possible, the Aptana plug-in will be my IDE of choice for iPhone development.  Or we might all switch to a Mac and Eclipse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea behind the Aptana plug-in is great, however on Windows; the browser engine for Eclipse/Aptana is IE. Since the iPhone comes with only Safari, you cant really test your layout, or functionality correctly.   What&#8217;s nice about building an app solely for the iPhone is that you can leverage webkits&#8217;s support for most of the CSS 3 spec and also Canvas.  Since the iPhone is on the edge network (sloooow), the slimmer you can make your app, the better and by using CSS 3 properties such as rounded corners, this is possible.  Does anyone know of a way to plug the new Window&#8217;s Safari into Eclipse or Aptana?  If this integration is possible, the Aptana plug-in will be my IDE of choice for iPhone development.  Or we might all switch to a Mac and Eclipse.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Nuzum</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252144</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Nuzum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that pages that use a lot of client side javascript processing for effects and animation cause my laptop&#039;s CPU to run hotter and for the fan to run. Presumably this is because the processor has to run closer to full speed. The net result is significantly reduced battery life.

iPhones, like laptops, presumably will depend on a lot of power saving features to get good battery life. It will be interesting to see how long the iPhones can go before being charged while using this wave of applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that pages that use a lot of client side javascript processing for effects and animation cause my laptop&#8217;s CPU to run hotter and for the fan to run. Presumably this is because the processor has to run closer to full speed. The net result is significantly reduced battery life.</p>
<p>iPhones, like laptops, presumably will depend on a lot of power saving features to get good battery life. It will be interesting to see how long the iPhones can go before being charged while using this wave of applications.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252127</link>
		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PM Maliki
too bad people outside the US can&#039;t get an iPhone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PM Maliki<br />
too bad people outside the US can&#8217;t get an iPhone</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas K</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252121</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ever use Aptana for editing files via FTP. In some cases it deletes your files: http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ever use Aptana for editing files via FTP. In some cases it deletes your files: <a href="http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070" rel="nofollow">http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andreas K</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252122</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ever use Apatana for editing files via FTP. In some cases it deletes your files: http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ever use Apatana for editing files via FTP. In some cases it deletes your files: <a href="http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070" rel="nofollow">http://www.aptana.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7070#7070</a></p>
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		<title>By: keptani</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252117</link>
		<dc:creator>keptani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the iChess also doesn&#039;t allow en passant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the iChess also doesn&#8217;t allow en passant!</p>
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		<title>By: arnikov</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252116</link>
		<dc:creator>arnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iChess is kinda cool but,

when you promote a pawn to queen it doesn&#039;t show the queen!

Nice little game tho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iChess is kinda cool but,</p>
<p>when you promote a pawn to queen it doesn&#8217;t show the queen!</p>
<p>Nice little game tho</p>
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		<title>By: PM Maliki</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252115</link>
		<dc:creator>PM Maliki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freaking cool, that&#039;s what this is.  Enter the new era of portable everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freaking cool, that&#8217;s what this is.  Enter the new era of portable everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuad Ta'eed</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-development-aptana-and-morfik/comment-page-1#comment-252114</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuad Ta'eed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have done some basic testing on a number of browsers on different Macs and PCs.
A quick summary for the time (in seconds) it takes the browser to respond to D2D4 on level 10 which involves a 5-ply search (which is far below the 10 ply which is typical for most chess engines written for the desktop, ie non-browser, these days) 

Dell laptop
	Opera â€“ 20
	FF2 â€“ 25
	IE6 - 40
	IE7 â€“ 40
	Safari â€“ 35
iMac
	Safar 150
	FF 90
	Camino 90
MacBook
	Safar â€“ 20
	FF â€“ 15

On an iPhone â€“ watch this space :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have done some basic testing on a number of browsers on different Macs and PCs.<br />
A quick summary for the time (in seconds) it takes the browser to respond to D2D4 on level 10 which involves a 5-ply search (which is far below the 10 ply which is typical for most chess engines written for the desktop, ie non-browser, these days) </p>
<p>Dell laptop<br />
	Opera â€“ 20<br />
	FF2 â€“ 25<br />
	IE6 &#8211; 40<br />
	IE7 â€“ 40<br />
	Safari â€“ 35<br />
iMac<br />
	Safar 150<br />
	FF 90<br />
	Camino 90<br />
MacBook<br />
	Safar â€“ 20<br />
	FF â€“ 15</p>
<p>On an iPhone â€“ watch this space :-)</p>
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