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	<title>Comments on: iPhone Safari Notes and Quirks</title>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252204</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woooooyeeeee look at you guys with your fancy iphones ;)
can&#039;t wait to see it in the flesh myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woooooyeeeee look at you guys with your fancy iphones ;)<br />
can&#8217;t wait to see it in the flesh myself!</p>
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		<title>By: mikepk</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252196</link>
		<dc:creator>mikepk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say you assume scroll events work, but other than two finger scrolling the &quot;Pan&quot; mode seems to fire no events at all. I&#039;m assuming this must be &quot;missing docs&quot; kind of stuff. I see that &quot;onscroll&quot; doesn&#039;t fire on window, document, or document.body, and none of the normal scroll position values change during &quot;panning&quot;. Taking the philosophy of the display as panning around a full window, I even tried the window position values, and they don&#039;t change either.

Very frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say you assume scroll events work, but other than two finger scrolling the &#8220;Pan&#8221; mode seems to fire no events at all. I&#8217;m assuming this must be &#8220;missing docs&#8221; kind of stuff. I see that &#8220;onscroll&#8221; doesn&#8217;t fire on window, document, or document.body, and none of the normal scroll position values change during &#8220;panning&#8221;. Taking the philosophy of the display as panning around a full window, I even tried the window position values, and they don&#8217;t change either.</p>
<p>Very frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252188</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I just did some benchmarking with javascript with my new iPhone and my 2.4GHz macbook pro check it out @ http://www.johnmurch.com/2007/07/01/iphone-javascript-and-spec-benchmark/

I will also be posting some issues on sites as well as some problems with safari on the iPhone.

Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I just did some benchmarking with javascript with my new iPhone and my 2.4GHz macbook pro check it out @ <a href="http://www.johnmurch.com/2007/07/01/iphone-javascript-and-spec-benchmark/" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnmurch.com/2007/07/01/iphone-javascript-and-spec-benchmark/</a></p>
<p>I will also be posting some issues on sites as well as some problems with safari on the iPhone.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Allen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252187</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be interested in the discussions in the www.iPhoneWebDev.com community -- lots of discussion today on viewports, disabling scaling, and other issues in creating iPhone web pages and web apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be interested in the discussions in the <a href="http://www.iPhoneWebDev.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iPhoneWebDev.com</a> community &#8212; lots of discussion today on viewports, disabling scaling, and other issues in creating iPhone web pages and web apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Schiemann</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252186</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Schiemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no svg support, so this is obviously not Safari 3 on the iPhone yet unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no svg support, so this is obviously not Safari 3 on the iPhone yet unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey West</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252184</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one crash when trying to cancel a photo note at Flickr. It wasn&#039;t that alarming because I knew I was trying something tricky. No crashes for normal behavior, including editing a SocialText wiki page and also adding this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one crash when trying to cancel a photo note at Flickr. It wasn&#8217;t that alarming because I knew I was trying something tricky. No crashes for normal behavior, including editing a SocialText wiki page and also adding this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-safari-notes-and-quirks/comment-page-1#comment-252180</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ &quot;Safari crashes are handled gracefully&quot;.. as if it&#039;s an assumed part of the functionality of Safari that it regularly crashes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ &#8220;Safari crashes are handled gracefully&#8221;.. as if it&#8217;s an assumed part of the functionality of Safari that it regularly crashes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cromwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cromwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted the code on my blog at http://timepedia.blogspot.com

-Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the code on my blog at <a href="http://timepedia.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://timepedia.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>-Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cromwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cromwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been able to get mousemove to fire in a bizarre way. First, I installed a mousemove capture listener on a SPAN, then I installed a click listener that does nothing but preventDefault(). The result is that mousemove is called when you click the SPAN. Oh, I also think you need a web page that has no horizontal scrollbar.
 
Has anyone tried the ondragstart/ondrag/ondragend stuff that WebKit supports? 

Apple needs to let the Safari browser get first dibs on events before gobbling them up to handle high level drags. They should generate mousedown on first touch, mousemove while dragging your finger, and mouseup when you let go. If preventDefault() isn&#039;t called, then do the magic &#039;flick scrolling&#039; stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been able to get mousemove to fire in a bizarre way. First, I installed a mousemove capture listener on a SPAN, then I installed a click listener that does nothing but preventDefault(). The result is that mousemove is called when you click the SPAN. Oh, I also think you need a web page that has no horizontal scrollbar.</p>
<p>Has anyone tried the ondragstart/ondrag/ondragend stuff that WebKit supports? </p>
<p>Apple needs to let the Safari browser get first dibs on events before gobbling them up to handle high level drags. They should generate mousedown on first touch, mousemove while dragging your finger, and mouseup when you let go. If preventDefault() isn&#8217;t called, then do the magic &#8216;flick scrolling&#8217; stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: h. kramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>h. kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. thanks for the info.</p>
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