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	<title>Comments on: jQuery UI 1.7 Released: New CSS Framework &amp; Dramatic Updates to Controls</title>
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		<title>By: munawar786</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-ui-17-released-new-css-framework-dramatic-updates-to-controls/comment-page-1#comment-271874</link>
		<dc:creator>munawar786</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it me or the rounded corners are still missing for IE ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it me or the rounded corners are still missing for IE ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jadet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, that&#039;s looking a lot more stable since the previous Ajaxian post. Might have to starting using this sometime when I can&#039;t avoid using jquery. I wish Prototype(UI) wasn&#039;t as dead as it is, while there&#039;s plenty of plugins some UI competition wouldn&#039;t hurt &quot;hint&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, that&#8217;s looking a lot more stable since the previous Ajaxian post. Might have to starting using this sometime when I can&#8217;t avoid using jquery. I wish Prototype(UI) wasn&#8217;t as dead as it is, while there&#8217;s plenty of plugins some UI competition wouldn&#8217;t hurt &#8220;hint&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rey Bango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rey Bango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Damir: If there are limitations, you should definitely ping the jQuery devs via the UI dev mailing list &amp; explain your points. They may be able to address some of your concerns. 
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http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Damir: If there are limitations, you should definitely ping the jQuery devs via the UI dev mailing list &#038; explain your points. They may be able to address some of your concerns.<br />
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<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev</a></p>
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		<title>By: DamirSecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>DamirSecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love the idea of jQueryUI and for  now I am really disappointed...

it seems it is taking  jQuery team for ever to build a decent library

there has been more than 2 yrs since interface library and on the outside it seems no real progress has been done....

I am really disappointed that dialogs works really chunky and that they are not smooth (not responsive and chunky dragging

and there is still no tree widget/component.....extJS has one, a great one, for years now


I love jQuery and I can&#039;t imagine my life without it, that&#039;s why I am expecting so much from UI, but as I see it now, it still a long way for being usable in real life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love the idea of jQueryUI and for  now I am really disappointed&#8230;</p>
<p>it seems it is taking  jQuery team for ever to build a decent library</p>
<p>there has been more than 2 yrs since interface library and on the outside it seems no real progress has been done&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am really disappointed that dialogs works really chunky and that they are not smooth (not responsive and chunky dragging</p>
<p>and there is still no tree widget/component&#8230;..extJS has one, a great one, for years now</p>
<p>I love jQuery and I can&#8217;t imagine my life without it, that&#8217;s why I am expecting so much from UI, but as I see it now, it still a long way for being usable in real life</p>
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		<title>By: Nosredna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nosredna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ScottJehl,

I&#039;ve already mentioned it on one of the jQueryUI Google Groups.

Seems to me that there has to be a visual change of some sort on mousedown, at least for anything that acts remotely like a button.

This makes jQueryUI feel &quot;dead&quot; or &quot;broken.&quot; To be honest, I&#039;ve given up on jQueryUI for now. But I&#039;ll try again when you get to 1.8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ScottJehl,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already mentioned it on one of the jQueryUI Google Groups.</p>
<p>Seems to me that there has to be a visual change of some sort on mousedown, at least for anything that acts remotely like a button.</p>
<p>This makes jQueryUI feel &#8220;dead&#8221; or &#8220;broken.&#8221; To be honest, I&#8217;ve given up on jQueryUI for now. But I&#8217;ll try again when you get to 1.8.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottJehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottJehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nosredna: It would be nice if you posted your issue to the ui-dev group (http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev) so we can chat about it and make fixes where appropriate. I think you make a good point about some of the buttons, but overall most widgets employ 3 button states at some point. For example, Accordion and tabs have the same states as the slider handles you mentioned. The days in the datepicker grid do too, though the arrow buttons could use mousedown states. Dialog does need some state help as well, though clicks in the dialog almost always close it, making that less noticeable.

As for the other elements on the page, those aren&#039;t UI widgets, but just state previews. We can improve how those are presented in ThemeRoller, but they are not part of the widget library.

I&#039;ll look forward to chatting about this on the ui-dev list. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nosredna: It would be nice if you posted your issue to the ui-dev group (<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui-dev</a>) so we can chat about it and make fixes where appropriate. I think you make a good point about some of the buttons, but overall most widgets employ 3 button states at some point. For example, Accordion and tabs have the same states as the slider handles you mentioned. The days in the datepicker grid do too, though the arrow buttons could use mousedown states. Dialog does need some state help as well, though clicks in the dialog almost always close it, making that less noticeable.</p>
<p>As for the other elements on the page, those aren&#8217;t UI widgets, but just state previews. We can improve how those are presented in ThemeRoller, but they are not part of the widget library.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look forward to chatting about this on the ui-dev list. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: ScottJehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottJehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a heads up - it seems the dialog problem is just an issue with the website demos (not the library code). I think there&#039;s a little extra script being included by mistake and dialogs are being called twice.

We&#039;re actively working out the kinks on the website to improve its performance and we&#039;ll try to get this issue worked out as soon as we can. 

You can browse the demos in SVN to confirm:
http://jquery-ui.googlecode.com/svn/tags/1.7/demos/dialog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads up &#8211; it seems the dialog problem is just an issue with the website demos (not the library code). I think there&#8217;s a little extra script being included by mistake and dialogs are being called twice.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re actively working out the kinks on the website to improve its performance and we&#8217;ll try to get this issue worked out as soon as we can. </p>
<p>You can browse the demos in SVN to confirm:<br />
<a href="http://jquery-ui.googlecode.com/svn/tags/1.7/demos/dialog/" rel="nofollow">http://jquery-ui.googlecode.com/svn/tags/1.7/demos/dialog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nosredna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nosredna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is with the states. When you click a button, it simply has to change state--it can&#039;t look like the hover state. Of all the widgets featured in ThemeRoller, only the slider shows a state change when you click on something.

To me, that makes the UI feel broken. I did use jQueryUI in one project, but I won&#039;t use it again until this is fixed. I can&#039;t think of a modern UI that works this way. It&#039;s disturbing.

I&#039;ve mentioned this several times, as have others, and I&#039;ve heard that they are working on it so I remain optimistic.

The ThemeRoller is a terrific thing, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is with the states. When you click a button, it simply has to change state&#8211;it can&#8217;t look like the hover state. Of all the widgets featured in ThemeRoller, only the slider shows a state change when you click on something.</p>
<p>To me, that makes the UI feel broken. I did use jQueryUI in one project, but I won&#8217;t use it again until this is fixed. I can&#8217;t think of a modern UI that works this way. It&#8217;s disturbing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned this several times, as have others, and I&#8217;ve heard that they are working on it so I remain optimistic.</p>
<p>The ThemeRoller is a terrific thing, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: sos</title>
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		<dc:creator>sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting the same issue as &quot;wintercriminal&quot; with the dialog boxes in FF3.  Also, I&#039;m seeing bugs in the animation effects in FF3.

Overall, many of the widgets need quite a lot of CSS work.  They lack polish compared to Ext-JS and YUI, even Dojo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting the same issue as &#8220;wintercriminal&#8221; with the dialog boxes in FF3.  Also, I&#8217;m seeing bugs in the animation effects in FF3.</p>
<p>Overall, many of the widgets need quite a lot of CSS work.  They lack polish compared to Ext-JS and YUI, even Dojo.</p>
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		<title>By: rdworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site has gotten a ton of traffic, and is buckling a bit. We&#039;re getting things switched over to s3 and google&#039;s cdn and should have it back up quite soon. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site has gotten a ton of traffic, and is buckling a bit. We&#8217;re getting things switched over to s3 and google&#8217;s cdn and should have it back up quite soon. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep...down...it WAS working before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;down&#8230;it WAS working before.</p>
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		<title>By: ExtAnimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExtAnimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The jquery UI page is down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The jquery UI page is down?</p>
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		<title>By: wintercriminal</title>
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		<dc:creator>wintercriminal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm, something is very wrong with the speed of the dialog widget. I use ff3/win - when i click on various dialog examples i have 3-4s delay between click and dialog showing up (first there is background, then stripes, then dialog). its pretty useles in that form (if it&#039;s a matter of preloading maybe you should think about doing it on examples page - now it looks like a very sluggish ui). also, closing works only after second click on the X or Cancel buttons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm, something is very wrong with the speed of the dialog widget. I use ff3/win &#8211; when i click on various dialog examples i have 3-4s delay between click and dialog showing up (first there is background, then stripes, then dialog). its pretty useles in that form (if it&#8217;s a matter of preloading maybe you should think about doing it on examples page &#8211; now it looks like a very sluggish ui). also, closing works only after second click on the X or Cancel buttons.</p>
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		<title>By: RobKoberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobKoberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no tree? sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no tree? sigh&#8230;</p>
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