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		<title>By: bugrain</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-validation-plugin-v12-updated/comment-page-1#comment-261069</link>
		<dc:creator>bugrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JÃ¶rn

Thanks for the response. I quite agree and having thought about it I realise it is more than just a gimmick/demo.

As an example, I was thinking in terms of a captcha ad-on I know of for a CMS that - to prevent core code hacking - adds an intermediate page with the captach image on it, this is quite frustrating. Now, with an Ajax solution like yours this can, as you say, provide the user with a more pleasing result. And the backend check can be left in (with dummy pages, etc. if needed) to stop the nasty bots from spamming.

Now, back to writing the Ajax solution... ;)</description>
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<p>Thanks for the response. I quite agree and having thought about it I realise it is more than just a gimmick/demo.</p>
<p>As an example, I was thinking in terms of a captcha ad-on I know of for a CMS that &#8211; to prevent core code hacking &#8211; adds an intermediate page with the captach image on it, this is quite frustrating. Now, with an Ajax solution like yours this can, as you say, provide the user with a more pleasing result. And the backend check can be left in (with dummy pages, etc. if needed) to stop the nasty bots from spamming.</p>
<p>Now, back to writing the Ajax solution&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: JÃ¶rn Zaefferer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JÃ¶rn Zaefferer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bugrain: The captcha validation, just as every other client-side validation, is just helping the user to successfully fill out the form. If he knows that the captcha is correct before submitting the form to the server, he doesn&#039;t have to deal with a postback and maybe reenter the password.

Never use it client-side validation as a replacement for serverside validation. That&#039;s a completely different story. Of course the goal is to write validation rules once and run them on both sides, once for helping the user, once to keep gargabe out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bugrain: The captcha validation, just as every other client-side validation, is just helping the user to successfully fill out the form. If he knows that the captcha is correct before submitting the form to the server, he doesn&#8217;t have to deal with a postback and maybe reenter the password.</p>
<p>Never use it client-side validation as a replacement for serverside validation. That&#8217;s a completely different story. Of course the goal is to write validation rules once and run them on both sides, once for helping the user, once to keep gargabe out.</p>
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		<title>By: bugrain</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-validation-plugin-v12-updated/comment-page-1#comment-261041</link>
		<dc:creator>bugrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a jQuery user but there are some really nice interactions in some of this stuff, really well executed.

One I just don&#039;t quite get though is the Ajax &#039;captcha&#039; (http://jquery.bassistance.de/validate/demo/captcha/index.php). At first I though Wow, that&#039;s great I can build captach in to any page easily. But then I realised that the process must be repeated on form/page submit anyway in cases where JavaScript is turned off. So perhaps it&#039;s not as useful as I first though for real spam protection - or have I missed something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a jQuery user but there are some really nice interactions in some of this stuff, really well executed.</p>
<p>One I just don&#8217;t quite get though is the Ajax &#8216;captcha&#8217; (<a href="http://jquery.bassistance.de/validate/demo/captcha/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://jquery.bassistance.de/validate/demo/captcha/index.php</a>). At first I though Wow, that&#8217;s great I can build captach in to any page easily. But then I realised that the process must be repeated on form/page submit anyway in cases where JavaScript is turned off. So perhaps it&#8217;s not as useful as I first though for real spam protection &#8211; or have I missed something?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-validation-plugin-v12-updated/comment-page-1#comment-261033</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JÃ¶rn is a freaking champ - he&#039;s the best plugin developer in my book.  Go form validation plugin go!</description>
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		<title>By: Tr0y</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-validation-plugin-v12-updated/comment-page-1#comment-261029</link>
		<dc:creator>Tr0y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome :-D ... I love this plugin, it is a must have for anyone doing any serious validation with jQuery.</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/jquery-validation-plugin-v12-updated/comment-page-1#comment-261016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great plugin. i&#039;ve been using earlier versions for several months. but this release is really great!</description>
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