@ThomasHansen -

Yeah I have to say that it *appears* Ajaxian may be in the tank a bit for jQuery, but then again who isn’t these days… Also, I really loath the comparisons to Mootools from other libs on size and such. I mean Mootools and jQuery are almost the same exact size compressed, but one offers native abilities the other does not. You’d have to tack on 3rd party addons to jQuery like easing, cookies, the awesome hash and that is not even touching on the “More” pack that is also native to the lib.

I was at Google IO and watched a presentation where Google basically “chose” 4 frameworks that it declared the “winners” or “only important ones”, needless to say Mootools was faded out on the slide as Dojo, jQuery, and Prototype were left. In my mind Google has that waaay wrong. I just couldn’t believe they got that partisan with the their almost non-existent portfolio of products that leverage frameworks for a rich user experience. Don’t get me wrong, they are great at what they do, but sometimes I want more in an app than a white page and text, and if that is the case I won’t be taking my advice from a company that builds 95% of their stuff that way…

Just saying…

Back in 2005 I made one using prototype 1.5 that just blows all the other out of the water where speed and resources are concerned.

I know many of these are just proofs of concept (as was mine) but to me they really aren’t proving anything except that there’s much room for improvement.

I got to give credit where credit is due for trying, but personally I wouldn’t go showing it off in the community until it’s the best of breed. I’ve never shown anyone what I’ve made because I think it sucks! and like I said it’s much faster and lightweight than the others I’ve seen.

Desktop inside browser != Web OS. In some scenarios, we just want a windows manager to manage all of our application, which is running inside one page. So we build a JavaScript desktop which is familiar by our users according to their existed user experience.

Not all JavaScript desktops need to be the Desktop that provides users with file system, task management, memory/CPU monitor and other native OS feature.

Anyway, there are a lot of web os/web desktops out there. Honestly, the idea is a good one. How many times would you want to work on your projects anywhere? Or stream your music and videos to your cellphone but dont want to use orb or something like that. However, the problem is there are no standards for this. Everybody creates their own API (normally in XML) or no API at all. For instance, StartForce.com is an awesome webtop. However I found no API at all. An API would make that great. At the same time EyeOS is good with a great API but itself is not as good as startforce.

All Im saying is the idea is possibly a good one. Cloudo is the newest of the bunch and it looks promising considering it is a company. But I honestly dont think this sort of thing will take off. Its gonna come down to some type of literal Cloud OS. I think Microsoft is gonna pull this off by 2011.

Just don’t see why Mocha doesn’t get much coverage here or other places, it is C L E A R L Y the best desktop solution out there for the web.

Disclaimer, sort of: I use Mocha…but only after I found it to be the most bad a$$ solution on the block!

You know, I know it’s just a side-effect of a web OS, but I wish when I dragged a window to the edges of the Windows desktop (or any desktop) that it would create more space just like that.

I’ve thought about doing it in the context of a web based game – but I can’t see it being a viable and useful productivity device. The Web doesn’t need a Windows O/S metaphor. We have a lot more freedom, we should be developing other metaphors.