Comments on: Legitimizing Comet with HTML 5 WebSocket

By: matanlurey

matanlurey — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:56:05 +0000

@pkenoyer

I understand the terminology is conflicting, but comet “acts” like a socket instead of a traditional http request – it allows data to be streamed to/from a source (usually a url), even though this is often emulated.

By: pkenoyer

pkenoyer — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:28:51 +0000

HTML Socket != Comet.

Why are people saying Comet when talking about Sockets? It’s like this mysterious “Forward Slash” key.

By: matanlurey

matanlurey — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:14:38 +0000

This seems pretty easy to implement right now – either using a variety of [native / hack] comet methods or a plugin like flash or java. Anybody know of one? (with this exact API, not similar)

By: mojave

mojave — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:29:07 +0000

Yay!!! Yippie! Can cut the fat ( i mean flash ) out.

By: Thomas Powell

Thomas Powell — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:03:57 +0000

This is great though even when sockets are available (ex: Flash) you quite often toast on the Web at large. port80 = open, everything else in many cases smashed closed, no spec is going to widely change firewall settings or attitudes any time soon. I applaud the effort but let’s be honest about the big hurdle this will have to overcome.

Nevertheless it is great to see all this HTML 5 work though I will agreed with @Unfocused as the HTML 5 spec is becoming a bit too sprawling for my liking. Computing history has not been kind of specs like that, just saying…but time will tell. Specs are one thing…implementation and acceptance, that’s the key.

By: genericallyloud

genericallyloud — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:50:50 +0000

@Unfocused: HTML5 is more than just the spec for the markup language itself. For example, look at Canvas. Yes, its an HTML tag, but most of its utility shows up as a JavaScript api. Additionally, if you look at the HTML5 spec, you’ll see that this isn’t exactly the first of its kind. There’s specification for client-side storage, history access, and cross-document messaging. HTML5 has really tried to take on more than just the markup, its about full browser compliance. While I agree with you that I think the browser requirements specification should be separate from a single markup language, HTML5 is gaining traction and I hope they milk it as much as they can!

By: Unfocused

Unfocused — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:55:45 +0000

Great.

But why is this in a spec for a markup language? Its got nothing to do with HTML…

By: Iumentum

Iumentum — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:26:18 +0000

Nice to see more goods for HTML5.
Hope to see File I/O being a part of the html standard as well.
Looks like we might be able to make pretty powerfull application for the web by using the HTML standards.

By: AMA3

AMA3 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:17:40 +0000

This is the best thing I have read about HTML5 to date! Thanks!