Friday, November 13th, 2009

Lunascape Orion: Cross browser extensions

Category: Browsers

Lunascape 6.0 Orion is the latest version of the “triple engine” browser that lets you select between Gecko, WebKit, and Trident on Windows:

The latest version supports Firefox Add-ons as well as IE plugins, and they are quite bullish on their performance:

Posted by Dion Almaer at 6:37 am
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This *could* be a really useful tool, but it appears that the rendering engines aren’t necessarily the most recent. The webkit engine, for example, couldn’t handle @font-face declarations when I tried it.

For now, it’s simpler just to open up each browser as needed.

Comment by barryvan — November 13, 2009

if this will let me debug IE with Firebug this might be the most revolutionary release in ages

Comment by ariehg — November 13, 2009

@ariehg If it lets you do that I’ll eat my shoes :)

Comment by jeromew — November 13, 2009

@ariehg and @jeromew, this would be too good to be true, but you can eat half a shoe with Firebug lite ! http://getfirebug.com/lite.html

Comment by fabienmenager — November 13, 2009

I will never let you debug IE pages with Firebug. Firbug is designed to work with the Gecko engine, not Trident.

Comment by fredclown — November 13, 2009

Does anyone know what browser versions the rendering engines equate to?

Comment by cancelbubble — November 13, 2009

@cancelbubble, this might help you : http://en.lunapedia.lunascape.tv/index.php?title=Release_Notes#Nov_10.2C_2009_Ver_6.0_Beta

Comment by fabienmenager — November 13, 2009

Thanks, looks like it only covers Gecko (same as Firefox 3.5.4). It gives a WebKit version (r50048) but doesn’t say what browser that equates to. Didn’t seem to find a Trident/IE equivalent.

It’d be awesome if they could clearly indicate on their home page what browser versions Lunascape equates to.

Comment by cancelbubble — November 13, 2009

The webkit is from the nightly builds. Looking at http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/win/1 the build in Lunascape was made on 2009-10-26 05:05:15 UTC which corresponds to more than the latest Safari 4. And I guess that the Trident/IE version is the one installed on the system.

Comment by fabienmenager — November 13, 2009

barryvan (first commenter) mentioned @font-face didn’t work in WebKit when he tried it (I’m assuming he tried it correctly). That’s been supported since Safari 3.1, I think?

Comment by cancelbubble — November 13, 2009

@cancelbubble: I tried it on my personal website, and the Webkit renderer didn’t render -webkit-box-shadow (or just box-shadow), didn’t blur text-shadow shadows as specified, and didn’t load my @font-face fonts. There could be more, but those were the most obvious things to me.

Comment by barryvan — November 13, 2009

Thanks for discussing Lunascape here.
fabienmenager is right about the Trident, Webkit, and Gecko versions. I am not aware of the webkit problem, but will report to dev team. Since this is a beta release, bugs will be found. It would be really helpful if you could report your findings on our forum, so that we can keep good track of issues and request. yuki@Lunascape

Comment by YukiAtLuna — November 13, 2009

This looks like a great platform :P

Just one question: can this engine help if we want to render website in windows within a standalone application?

Comment by mallim — November 15, 2009

Mallim, thanks. Could you elaborate on what kind of use cases you are thinking of?

Comment by YukiAtLuna — November 16, 2009

The Trident engine is based on the current IE you’ve installed on your machine, so there’s no multiple Trident engine switches, yet.

Comment by davidck — November 19, 2009

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