Comments on: MAMA, who is using Web standards?

By: ThomasHansen

ThomasHansen — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:13:01 +0000

@BertrandLeRoy
There are many ways to count web-server usage, I know some studies are counting also parked domains. And when GoDaddy switched from Apache to IIS for parked domains (this is a fact) the studies which used also parked domains as a basis for their counting had an increase in IIS usage with more than 10-15 percents! While the same decrease in Apache usage…
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Many people are speculating today if that was conscious (by your employer and GoDaddy) to make the world believe that IIS was in fact more used than it actually was at that point to foster adoption…
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Though for a guy with “Tales from the evil empire” as the name of his blog, this is probably not news… ;)

By: tack

tack — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:11:29 +0000

One thing I think would be handy and one of the big search vendors would likely have to do it is to generate a sample set of web pages that were created since, say 2004 and modified in the last year. The study likely included some pages that have existed for a decade or more. I’d like to see this kind of analysis on pages created in the era of ie6+, ff 1.5+, webkit 0+.

By: BertrandLeRoy

BertrandLeRoy — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:32:44 +0000

(I mean they do mention the Netcraft data but I didn’t find any explanation of the difference)

By: BertrandLeRoy

BertrandLeRoy — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:25:19 +0000

Am I the only one thinking the huge discrepancy between those figures (68% for Apache and 26% for IIS) and Netcraft figures (50% Apache 35% IIS) make the whole thing highly suspicious?

By: ThomasHansen

ThomasHansen — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:03:42 +0000

I think this is great news and shows that Opera (and especially Håkon) is truly dedicated to following standards and evangelizing them. Standards holds a value all by themselves, and this helps us spread that value…

By: blagus

blagus — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:34:04 +0000

Quite hard issue. Web is not “standarized” yet, and when it does we’ll have another large, hard step: make it strict/x[ht]ml. THis is the tecnology we have in hands, is the one I’m trying hard to follow, but takes much more time and knowledge wich explains why web is not “fixed” yet. Besides all the benefits we know, will people really follow that, 100% in next years ? Quirks HTML was so easy to beginers to learn, and xHTML have so many tricks… I wish all this was designed in some other fashion.

By: Joeri

Joeri — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:23:43 +0000

Using a doctype means you have fewer browser bugs to worry about. I suspect for most web designers it has less to do with a desire to be standards-compliant than with a desire to get pages built faster.

By: TNO

TNO — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:32 +0000

But on the same note, look at how many web sites are using DOCTYPES compared to how many use to.