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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245470</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?  No &quot;Beta&quot; next to their logo.  I thought that was a standard for Web 2.0 sites!  They may have a clean, updated site, but the usability is horrible.

&quot;OK...let&#039;s place the main navigation on the right like bloggers and in a box that looks like an ad.  This should draw all the cool kids attention.&quot;  Come on!!  I&#039;ll admit....it took me awhile before I found it since I automatically block out advert columns.  Sometimes blazing a new trail gets you burned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  No &#8220;Beta&#8221; next to their logo.  I thought that was a standard for Web 2.0 sites!  They may have a clean, updated site, but the usability is horrible.</p>
<p>&#8220;OK&#8230;let&#8217;s place the main navigation on the right like bloggers and in a box that looks like an ad.  This should draw all the cool kids attention.&#8221;  Come on!!  I&#8217;ll admit&#8230;.it took me awhile before I found it since I automatically block out advert columns.  Sometimes blazing a new trail gets you burned.</p>
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		<title>By: gram</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245380</link>
		<dc:creator>gram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, what i can say... it&#039;s buggy :( try to open popup in FF and scroll down, you&#039;ll see where shadow div ends. I can&#039;t believe they have such dumb dhtml programmers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, what i can say&#8230; it&#8217;s buggy :( try to open popup in FF and scroll down, you&#8217;ll see where shadow div ends. I can&#8217;t believe they have such dumb dhtml programmers</p>
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		<title>By: Andi K</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245373</link>
		<dc:creator>Andi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adnan: Better working than in IE 6!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adnan: Better working than in IE 6!</p>
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		<title>By: DigitaLink</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245344</link>
		<dc:creator>DigitaLink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on now ... if the page validated, it wouldn&#039;t work in their own browser!  ;)

Personally, I don&#039;t give a rats butt about Microsoft&#039;s homepage.  They could go offline entirely and I&#039;d never notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on now &#8230; if the page validated, it wouldn&#8217;t work in their own browser!  ;)</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t give a rats butt about Microsoft&#8217;s homepage.  They could go offline entirely and I&#8217;d never notice.</p>
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		<title>By: wroxbox</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245332</link>
		<dc:creator>wroxbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not bad.

But 112 warnings by w3c validator, no errors.

Mainly about &amp; -&gt; &amp; no widths with images and lots of empty spans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not bad.</p>
<p>But 112 warnings by w3c validator, no errors.</p>
<p>Mainly about &amp; -&gt; &amp; no widths with images and lots of empty spans</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245331</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intresting thing is that it works on FireFox :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intresting thing is that it works on FireFox :-)</p>
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		<title>By: JosÃ© Jeria</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245323</link>
		<dc:creator>JosÃ© Jeria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About you guys pointing out it doesn&#039;t validate. So what? Who gives a F**K? Since when are websites judged based on if they validate or not?

Google, Yahoo, Ajaxian, Wikipedia, YouTube etc all don&#039;t validate. And nobody cares. They are still good websites.

Ah yeah, Duncan Beaver, you pointing out that microsoft.com still doesn&#039;t valite, your own homepage doesn&#039;t validate....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About you guys pointing out it doesn&#8217;t validate. So what? Who gives a F**K? Since when are websites judged based on if they validate or not?</p>
<p>Google, Yahoo, Ajaxian, Wikipedia, YouTube etc all don&#8217;t validate. And nobody cares. They are still good websites.</p>
<p>Ah yeah, Duncan Beaver, you pointing out that microsoft.com still doesn&#8217;t valite, your own homepage doesn&#8217;t validate&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245312</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>appears to work in opera - - I&#039;m very suprised - - though for all i know half the content is missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>appears to work in opera &#8211; - I&#8217;m very suprised &#8211; - though for all i know half the content is missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245309</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;well it looks better than the apple homepageâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt; Well, it looks better than the tabs at the top of the Apple site. That shit is years old and hideous. But the rest of Apple&#039;s site is generally very clean and attractive, design-wise, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>well it looks better than the apple homepageâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p> Well, it looks better than the tabs at the top of the Apple site. That shit is years old and hideous. But the rest of Apple&#8217;s site is generally very clean and attractive, design-wise, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Andi K</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245305</link>
		<dc:creator>Andi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing that I see when I visit the page with IE6 is a JS error and the design is not correct - the same problem on msn.com. This is ridiculous, they don&#039;t support their own browsers. They should add a &quot;get firefox&quot; button. Probably IE7 supports the site correctly, but it&#039;s an IE and not Firefox. Anyway, Opera is supported partially.
The left hand menu could be made better. It&#039;s better to click and not hover an item to see further information.

Fazit: They still don&#039;t support their own products and still don&#039;t know how to mark up and design in a standard compliant way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing that I see when I visit the page with IE6 is a JS error and the design is not correct &#8211; the same problem on msn.com. This is ridiculous, they don&#8217;t support their own browsers. They should add a &#8220;get firefox&#8221; button. Probably IE7 supports the site correctly, but it&#8217;s an IE and not Firefox. Anyway, Opera is supported partially.<br />
The left hand menu could be made better. It&#8217;s better to click and not hover an item to see further information.</p>
<p>Fazit: They still don&#8217;t support their own products and still don&#8217;t know how to mark up and design in a standard compliant way.</p>
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		<title>By: Animal</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245303</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have the size of their &quot;modality mask&quot; wrong when the &quot;About Microsoft&quot; divwindow is up. It&#039;s created to the depth of the viewport, not the depth of the document. Scroll up and things become clickable. It looks weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have the size of their &#8220;modality mask&#8221; wrong when the &#8220;About Microsoft&#8221; divwindow is up. It&#8217;s created to the depth of the viewport, not the depth of the document. Scroll up and things become clickable. It looks weird.</p>
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		<title>By: mihd</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245302</link>
		<dc:creator>mihd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well it looks better than the apple homepage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it looks better than the apple homepage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smrimell</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245301</link>
		<dc:creator>smrimell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First impressions from a design and usability perspective, this isn&#039;t bad at all. I particularly like the way the main body content changes on rolling over the left hand links. My first impressions are often wide of the mark but its a fair 7 out of 10 on first view. Validation isn&#039;t the be all and end all, its an ideal not an imperative. I&#039;m pretty fussy about validating my own pages, but only because I&#039;m anal! I don&#039;t expect it from Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First impressions from a design and usability perspective, this isn&#8217;t bad at all. I particularly like the way the main body content changes on rolling over the left hand links. My first impressions are often wide of the mark but its a fair 7 out of 10 on first view. Validation isn&#8217;t the be all and end all, its an ideal not an imperative. I&#8217;m pretty fussy about validating my own pages, but only because I&#8217;m anal! I don&#8217;t expect it from Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245299</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how Microsoft can get thier works to a new level of incompetence. I just can&#039;t understand why they don&#039;t create a nice and valid web site. Beauty and validaty are not incompatible, beauty mean valid and valid mean beauty. They still don&#039;t understand that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how Microsoft can get thier works to a new level of incompetence. I just can&#8217;t understand why they don&#8217;t create a nice and valid web site. Beauty and validaty are not incompatible, beauty mean valid and valid mean beauty. They still don&#8217;t understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: Corporal Max Sterling</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245297</link>
		<dc:creator>Corporal Max Sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not bad, visually... but it lags like hell on my computer for some reason, while moo.fx, scriptaculous, etc do not lag at all. also, like someone else noted, only the front page sports their &quot;new, customer-requested navigation&quot; whereas all the rest of the kazillion pages on their site have the old left-nav.

dont wanna fall in that MS bashing category, but honestly i think they should focus more on making their products better and not so much on how cool their homepage looks, imo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not bad, visually&#8230; but it lags like hell on my computer for some reason, while moo.fx, scriptaculous, etc do not lag at all. also, like someone else noted, only the front page sports their &#8220;new, customer-requested navigation&#8221; whereas all the rest of the kazillion pages on their site have the old left-nav.</p>
<p>dont wanna fall in that MS bashing category, but honestly i think they should focus more on making their products better and not so much on how cool their homepage looks, imo</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245295</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks okay - they just copied the greybox technique and made three &quot;views&quot; for it.

Creativity: 2
Implementation: 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks okay &#8211; they just copied the greybox technique and made three &#8220;views&#8221; for it.</p>
<p>Creativity: 2<br />
Implementation: 8</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245294</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sry, I must bring this up...notice how that&#039;s the only page that actually complies to standards (everything else doesn&#039;t display right in firefox)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sry, I must bring this up&#8230;notice how that&#8217;s the only page that actually complies to standards (everything else doesn&#8217;t display right in firefox)</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245293</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no way....a dHTML page from MS that actually works in firefox!
****UNBELIEVABLE*****</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no way&#8230;.a dHTML page from MS that actually works in firefox!<br />
****UNBELIEVABLE*****</p>
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		<title>By: Will Sahatdjian</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245292</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Sahatdjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm something new from Microsoft...who would have thought everyone would immediately begin bashing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm something new from Microsoft&#8230;who would have thought everyone would immediately begin bashing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/microsoftcom-is-updated/comment-page-1#comment-245286</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it, very slick. and works well in firefox unlike some of there newer web apps ... ie hotmail live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it, very slick. and works well in firefox unlike some of there newer web apps &#8230; ie hotmail live.</p>
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