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	<title>Comments on: MochiKit.Animator: New Animation in MochiKit</title>
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		<title>By: Andi Kalsch</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/mochikitanimator-new-animation-in-mochikit/comment-page-1#comment-172030</link>
		<dc:creator>Andi Kalsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s getting time that I publish my new framework, it does nearly the same as Animator, soplease wait a few day. It&#039;s a universal framework, you can animate anything you want ,)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s getting time that I publish my new framework, it does nearly the same as Animator, soplease wait a few day. It&#8217;s a universal framework, you can animate anything you want ,)</p>
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		<title>By: Karl G</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/mochikitanimator-new-animation-in-mochikit/comment-page-1#comment-171678</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien, I have no interest in competing for the minimal file size prize. I&#039;m not even doing simple stuff like using tabs instead of spaces for indention. You can get all of mootools with bells and whistles in the same size this takes uncompressed, and moo&#039;s effects library can do almost everything this does. But the almost is the key difference and is where all the complexity and most of the size comes from.

I certainly wouldn&#039;t send it over the wire like this if I cared about bandwidth. I&#039;d run it through a compressor and then gzip it and get it out at around 3-4k, which is trivial. I&#039;m looking forward to dojo&#039;s work on the js linker. It will make these objections even more pointless than they already are.

On the other hand, I like the editor idea. I&#039;ll probably write one.

@Nathan: I was already planning on a keyframeAnimation function that allows you to provide a list of css/time pairs and get back an animation chain. It&#039;ll be in 1.0.

@rektide: SVG is DOM and I believe takes CSS for styling, so you could certainly animate it like this. I don&#039;t know what type of support SVG implementations have for querying style attributes. It&#039;s not something I&#039;ve looked into, nor do I plan to until SVG is on the IE team&#039;s radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien, I have no interest in competing for the minimal file size prize. I&#8217;m not even doing simple stuff like using tabs instead of spaces for indention. You can get all of mootools with bells and whistles in the same size this takes uncompressed, and moo&#8217;s effects library can do almost everything this does. But the almost is the key difference and is where all the complexity and most of the size comes from.</p>
<p>I certainly wouldn&#8217;t send it over the wire like this if I cared about bandwidth. I&#8217;d run it through a compressor and then gzip it and get it out at around 3-4k, which is trivial. I&#8217;m looking forward to dojo&#8217;s work on the js linker. It will make these objections even more pointless than they already are.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I like the editor idea. I&#8217;ll probably write one.</p>
<p>@Nathan: I was already planning on a keyframeAnimation function that allows you to provide a list of css/time pairs and get back an animation chain. It&#8217;ll be in 1.0.</p>
<p>@rektide: SVG is DOM and I believe takes CSS for styling, so you could certainly animate it like this. I don&#8217;t know what type of support SVG implementations have for querying style attributes. It&#8217;s not something I&#8217;ve looked into, nor do I plan to until SVG is on the IE team&#8217;s radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan de Vries</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/mochikitanimator-new-animation-in-mochikit/comment-page-1#comment-171440</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan de Vries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t possibly fathom why anyone would remove the use of CSS classes for animation after seeing Bernard Sumption&#039;s library.

Everyone understands CSS. A library which automatically does the tweening between &quot;frames&quot; specified using CSS declarations is &lt;strong&gt;so&lt;/strong&gt; much more powerful than anything else...and makes sense to more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t possibly fathom why anyone would remove the use of CSS classes for animation after seeing Bernard Sumption&#8217;s library.</p>
<p>Everyone understands CSS. A library which automatically does the tweening between &#8220;frames&#8221; specified using CSS declarations is <strong>so</strong> much more powerful than anything else&#8230;and makes sense to more people.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me? 31KB? Quite large for adding a few effects to a webpage. I imagine some people could add this library for one simple effect on their website.. seems a waste of bandwidth really.

 I may have to jump into this JS effects race - my own CSS animator JS library is 3KB and does most everything this does, and i even have a fancy editor for the effects to make it easy to play around and get things working fast.  That&#039;s one thing that all these toolkits seem to be missing is an editor, and they are all too bloated as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? 31KB? Quite large for adding a few effects to a webpage. I imagine some people could add this library for one simple effect on their website.. seems a waste of bandwidth really.</p>
<p> I may have to jump into this JS effects race &#8211; my own CSS animator JS library is 3KB and does most everything this does, and i even have a fancy editor for the effects to make it easy to play around and get things working fast.  That&#8217;s one thing that all these toolkits seem to be missing is an editor, and they are all too bloated as well.</p>
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		<title>By: rektide</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/mochikitanimator-new-animation-in-mochikit/comment-page-1#comment-171210</link>
		<dc:creator>rektide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about modifying SVG this way?  That would be fantastically immensely powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about modifying SVG this way?  That would be fantastically immensely powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Snootz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a pretty harsh critic, but I actually liked this. Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a pretty harsh critic, but I actually liked this. Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen a fish eye before. Its similar to your eye, but in a fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a fish eye before. Its similar to your eye, but in a fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Isotoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isotoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;MochiKit.Animator&lt;/strong&gt;

The release of MochiKit.Animator feels like quite a major thing here. You can read some comments by Kevin Dangoor and Ajaxian. It&#8217;s a fantastic API, and it really looks and smells far better than Scriptaculous, the current king of the...</description>
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<p>The release of MochiKit.Animator feels like quite a major thing here. You can read some comments by Kevin Dangoor and Ajaxian. It&#8217;s a fantastic API, and it really looks and smells far better than Scriptaculous, the current king of the&#8230;</p>
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