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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-245899</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morfik as the owner of this ground-breaking innovation.....  

everyone is out to capitalize anyway they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morfik as the owner of this ground-breaking innovation&#8230;..  </p>
<p>everyone is out to capitalize anyway they can.</p>
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		<title>By: Uhyon Chung</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-45650</link>
		<dc:creator>Uhyon Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well considering the fact that a kid actually received a patent for a swing~ That shows you how our patent system is broken.
Check out~
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2178</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well considering the fact that a kid actually received a patent for a swing~ That shows you how our patent system is broken.<br />
Check out~<br />
<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2178" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2178</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-20670</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I absolutely would still be arguing that Morfik seemingly has very little IP here, regardless if its Google or M$.
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For the record, I agree with you.  Just playing devil&#039;s advocate.  I loosely saw some correlations between this (if they have the IP) and other historical, internet-relevant events where the little guy was fervently defended.  It seems in this case that the little guy is out of line if what Dietrich says is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I absolutely would still be arguing that Morfik seemingly has very little IP here, regardless if its Google or M$.<br />
&#8212;<br />
For the record, I agree with you.  Just playing devil&#8217;s advocate.  I loosely saw some correlations between this (if they have the IP) and other historical, internet-relevant events where the little guy was fervently defended.  It seems in this case that the little guy is out of line if what Dietrich says is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Aardvark Face</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-18112</link>
		<dc:creator>Aardvark Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the problem as I see it.  Morfik was first out.  Morfik applied for a patent.  It appears that nobody else did.  What does the patent application say?  I suspect their attorneys didn&#039;t just come out and make a big scene for nothing.  Of course if the USPTO doesn&#039;t grant the patent then this is all for nothing, but if they do then what will you say - that they don&#039;t deserve it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the problem as I see it.  Morfik was first out.  Morfik applied for a patent.  It appears that nobody else did.  What does the patent application say?  I suspect their attorneys didn&#8217;t just come out and make a big scene for nothing.  Of course if the USPTO doesn&#8217;t grant the patent then this is all for nothing, but if they do then what will you say &#8211; that they don&#8217;t deserve it?</p>
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		<title>By: Hubris Sonic</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-18090</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubris Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
I absolutely would still be arguing that Morfik &lt;i&gt;seemingly&lt;/i&gt; has very little IP here, regardless if its Google or M$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
I absolutely would still be arguing that Morfik <i>seemingly</i> has very little IP here, regardless if its Google or M$.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Papier</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17978</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Papier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 18:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some just can&#039;t see the single 1, from all the 0s in Google. It could be even harder finding the intellectual 1, amongst so many ineffectual 0s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some just can&#8217;t see the single 1, from all the 0s in Google. It could be even harder finding the intellectual 1, amongst so many ineffectual 0s.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17976</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say we were talking about the MWT, the Microsoft Web Toolkit, instead.  How many of you would still sing the same tune against Morfik and their rights to protect their IP if it were Microsoft they were up against instead of Google?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say we were talking about the MWT, the Microsoft Web Toolkit, instead.  How many of you would still sing the same tune against Morfik and their rights to protect their IP if it were Microsoft they were up against instead of Google?</p>
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		<title>By: Forsooth</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17967</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, a company developing a mornic software is undercut by another company releasing the same idiotic software and then wants to protect it using a ridiculous patent system. Squabble over nothing, fools. The world never ceases to amuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, a company developing a mornic software is undercut by another company releasing the same idiotic software and then wants to protect it using a ridiculous patent system. Squabble over nothing, fools. The world never ceases to amuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17909</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John McClean: Thems the breaks. 
Even if they could get a patent for something as obsure as language translation (which they won&#039;t be able to unless thay come up with a unique &lt;em&gt;process&lt;/em&gt; for translating, which would still allow any other competitor to develop a different process), it means nothing unless you enforce it. That means going to court, against Google. Does anyone here honestly believe that Google will lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John McClean: Thems the breaks.<br />
Even if they could get a patent for something as obsure as language translation (which they won&#8217;t be able to unless thay come up with a unique <em>process</em> for translating, which would still allow any other competitor to develop a different process), it means nothing unless you enforce it. That means going to court, against Google. Does anyone here honestly believe that Google will lose?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Echo framework?  The Echo 1 framework, which isn&#039;t AJAX enabled, has been around for several years but does the same thing - you write Java code and it creates the HTML and Javascript for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Echo framework?  The Echo 1 framework, which isn&#8217;t AJAX enabled, has been around for several years but does the same thing &#8211; you write Java code and it creates the HTML and Javascript for you.</p>
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		<title>By: John McClean</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17792</link>
		<dc:creator>John McClean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 10:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If XML11 can demonstrate they were doing it first, it would count as prior art and the patent won&#039;t be granted. I think they might be able to argue that it&#039;s novel converting from one high level language to another (even from one high level language to another higher level one) as most compilers go the other way. Depends whether or not anyone beat them to it. It must be pretty galling for them - they&#039;ve invested years in their business and now a giant competitor have released a loss leading similar product for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If XML11 can demonstrate they were doing it first, it would count as prior art and the patent won&#8217;t be granted. I think they might be able to argue that it&#8217;s novel converting from one high level language to another (even from one high level language to another higher level one) as most compilers go the other way. Depends whether or not anyone beat them to it. It must be pretty galling for them &#8211; they&#8217;ve invested years in their business and now a giant competitor have released a loss leading similar product for free.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17786</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 10:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&#039;value of mapping a high-level language to JavaScript &#039;&lt;/em&gt;
What..... Javascript isn&#039;t high-level enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8216;value of mapping a high-level language to JavaScript &#8216;</em><br />
What&#8230;.. Javascript isn&#8217;t high-level enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzalo</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17763</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 09:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What about XML11, and the other companies/projects/products that compile to JS?&lt;/em&gt;

They are not Google, so maybe they&#039;re not considered worth the trouble by Morfik?


After reading that press release, I still don&#039;t have a clear view of what Morfik claims. Do they really think there&#039;s code in GWT that belongs to them, or do they pretend to own the &lt;strong&gt;idea&lt;/strong&gt; of translating Java (or whatever) into Javascript?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What about XML11, and the other companies/projects/products that compile to JS?</em></p>
<p>They are not Google, so maybe they&#8217;re not considered worth the trouble by Morfik?</p>
<p>After reading that press release, I still don&#8217;t have a clear view of what Morfik claims. Do they really think there&#8217;s code in GWT that belongs to them, or do they pretend to own the <strong>idea</strong> of translating Java (or whatever) into Javascript?</p>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17728</link>
		<dc:creator>carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 07:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? Are they under the illusion they&#039;ve invented the first compiler ever? Lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? Are they under the illusion they&#8217;ve invented the first compiler ever? Lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17686</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google&#039;s WBT IP Infringement ?&lt;/strong&gt;

When Google released it&#039;s Web Toolkit, a rumor said they developed it together with Morfik. Morfik just sent a press release, starting:&quot;Morfik Will Pursue all Avenues to Protect its IP Rights&quot;. A major search engine development party (Goo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google&#8217;s WBT IP Infringement ?</strong></p>
<p>When Google released it&#39;s Web Toolkit, a rumor said they developed it together with Morfik. Morfik just sent a press release, starting:&quot;Morfik Will Pursue all Avenues to Protect its IP Rights&quot;. A major search engine development party (Goo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Smirl</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17660</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Smirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computers have been translating one language into another since they were invented. This concept has been done 1000&#039;s of times previously, just change the names from Java and Javascript. Rhino translates Javascript to Java byte code, that&#039;s pretty close. Of course if you add the phrase &quot;on the Internet&quot; to anything it becomes patentable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computers have been translating one language into another since they were invented. This concept has been done 1000&#8242;s of times previously, just change the names from Java and Javascript. Rhino translates Javascript to Java byte code, that&#8217;s pretty close. Of course if you add the phrase &#8220;on the Internet&#8221; to anything it becomes patentable.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubris Sonic</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/morfik-targets-google/comment-page-1#comment-17654</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubris Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Morfik as the owner of this ground-breaking innovation &lt;/i&gt;

these guys really think very well of themselves... ground-breaking? i dont know about that... seems a somewhat trivial application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Morfik as the owner of this ground-breaking innovation </i></p>
<p>these guys really think very well of themselves&#8230; ground-breaking? i dont know about that&#8230; seems a somewhat trivial application.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubris Sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubris Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Morfikâ€™s vision of â€œbrowser as computing platform&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

oh, please...  they have to be kidding, can I sue them? 

now, if they pursue the convert Java to JS stuff.. maybe they have something... I am not sure, it was a natural path to the GWT. It never occurred to me to convert from another language, but I did have a &#039;vision&#039; of the browser as a computing platform many, many years ago. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Morfikâ€™s vision of â€œbrowser as computing platform&#8221;</i></p>
<p>oh, please&#8230;  they have to be kidding, can I sue them? </p>
<p>now, if they pursue the convert Java to JS stuff.. maybe they have something&#8230; I am not sure, it was a natural path to the GWT. It never occurred to me to convert from another language, but I did have a &#8216;vision&#8217; of the browser as a computing platform many, many years ago. ;)</p>
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