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	<title>Comments on: PastryKit: An iPhone Webdev Library from &#8230; Apple</title>
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		<title>By: lisadmc</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pastrykit-an-iphone-webdev-library-from-apple/comment-page-1#comment-283937</link>
		<dc:creator>lisadmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check this out
http://cubiq.org/scrolling-div-on-iphone-ipod-touch/
demo http://cubiq.org/dropbox/abc/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this out<br />
<a href="http://cubiq.org/scrolling-div-on-iphone-ipod-touch/" rel="nofollow">http://cubiq.org/scrolling-div-on-iphone-ipod-touch/</a><br />
demo <a href="http://cubiq.org/dropbox/abc/" rel="nofollow">http://cubiq.org/dropbox/abc/</a></p>
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		<title>By: iphonedevelopment</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pastrykit-an-iphone-webdev-library-from-apple/comment-page-1#comment-277396</link>
		<dc:creator>iphonedevelopment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great resource. Its about time they made something like this sheesh! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great resource. Its about time they made something like this sheesh! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ryshaw</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pastrykit-an-iphone-webdev-library-from-apple/comment-page-1#comment-277367</link>
		<dc:creator>ryshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is good discussion about this in this hacker news thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=997508  also, in that thread you can see that I (and a bunch of other people) have pulled down the code, unobfuscated it and put it back up on github.  go check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is good discussion about this in this hacker news thread: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=997508" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=997508</a>  also, in that thread you can see that I (and a bunch of other people) have pulled down the code, unobfuscated it and put it back up on github.  go check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: InteractiveLogic</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pastrykit-an-iphone-webdev-library-from-apple/comment-page-1#comment-277357</link>
		<dc:creator>InteractiveLogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately it sounds as if the framework is not officially released, but rather is a &quot;stealth framework&quot; developed internally, and would probably be inadvisable to use directly due to licensing issues (or lack thereof, which may be more dangerous). 

any word on when/if this will be made available publicly on developer.apple.com? seems like it sure would be useful...

in the meantime, it&#039;s definitely worthwhile perusing the js &amp; css to get some ideas/insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately it sounds as if the framework is not officially released, but rather is a &#8220;stealth framework&#8221; developed internally, and would probably be inadvisable to use directly due to licensing issues (or lack thereof, which may be more dangerous). </p>
<p>any word on when/if this will be made available publicly on developer.apple.com? seems like it sure would be useful&#8230;</p>
<p>in the meantime, it&#8217;s definitely worthwhile perusing the js &amp; css to get some ideas/insights.</p>
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		<title>By: albeik</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pastrykit-an-iphone-webdev-library-from-apple/comment-page-1#comment-277351</link>
		<dc:creator>albeik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good thing about the code is that it&#039;s not obfuscated. Here is a &quot;reformatted&quot; version of the code:

http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.js
http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.css

Still reading through the code for analysis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good thing about the code is that it&#8217;s not obfuscated. Here is a &#8220;reformatted&#8221; version of the code:</p>
<p><a href="http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.js" rel="nofollow">http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.js</a><br />
<a href="http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.css" rel="nofollow">http://albeik.com/pastrykit/PastryKit-ug.css</a></p>
<p>Still reading through the code for analysis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@devongovett:
PastryKit may have been written by another team separate from the Safari team, hence why fixed positioning wasn&#039;t native. PastryKit has only really been used by iPhone&#039;s tutorial/help app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@devongovett:<br />
PastryKit may have been written by another team separate from the Safari team, hence why fixed positioning wasn&#8217;t native. PastryKit has only really been used by iPhone&#8217;s tutorial/help app.</p>
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		<title>By: devongovett</title>
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		<dc:creator>devongovett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why Apple decided to create a JavaScript library for things like scrolling and fixed position elements instead of adding support to the browser itself. Seems a bit odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why Apple decided to create a JavaScript library for things like scrolling and fixed position elements instead of adding support to the browser itself. Seems a bit odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple&#039;s purchase of lala.com makes sense when you combine it with this library. Apple is going to launch a web-based version of itunes, and obviously this needs to work well on the iPhone. So, at the very least they&#039;re going to use this in-house to build iTunes for web. Given that they usually release their in-house development tools, I would put reasonable odds on this shipping to a wider audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s purchase of lala.com makes sense when you combine it with this library. Apple is going to launch a web-based version of itunes, and obviously this needs to work well on the iPhone. So, at the very least they&#8217;re going to use this in-house to build iTunes for web. Given that they usually release their in-house development tools, I would put reasonable odds on this shipping to a wider audience.</p>
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