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	<title>Comments on: Pegs: Automate display: fixed++</title>
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		<title>By: mrmass</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-270016</link>
		<dc:creator>mrmass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works even with Opera! ...NOT!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works even with Opera! &#8230;NOT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: pmontrasio</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269736</link>
		<dc:creator>pmontrasio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of those cases that remind us that web apps are different from desktop apps. Pegged scrolling would feel unnatural in the desktop but it&#039;s very natural in a web page. That&#039;s because we&#039;re used to scroll down a page, lose sight of the (mostly) useless header, keep seeing at least part of the navigation menu and read the most important part of the page (just look at your browser now). The kind of scrolling demonstrated by Chris builds on what we&#039;re used to do and gives us the benefit of keeping the navigation menu in sight.

I didn&#039;t check Chris&#039; code thoughtfully yet but maybe it&#039;s even possible to keep an horizontal navigation menu in sight and make disappear only the site header above it, e.g.: in the case of Ajaxian, keep the Search, News, Podcasts, etc menu visible at the very top of the page and let disappear only the 50px or so so above it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of those cases that remind us that web apps are different from desktop apps. Pegged scrolling would feel unnatural in the desktop but it&#8217;s very natural in a web page. That&#8217;s because we&#8217;re used to scroll down a page, lose sight of the (mostly) useless header, keep seeing at least part of the navigation menu and read the most important part of the page (just look at your browser now). The kind of scrolling demonstrated by Chris builds on what we&#8217;re used to do and gives us the benefit of keeping the navigation menu in sight.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t check Chris&#8217; code thoughtfully yet but maybe it&#8217;s even possible to keep an horizontal navigation menu in sight and make disappear only the site header above it, e.g.: in the case of Ajaxian, keep the Search, News, Podcasts, etc menu visible at the very top of the page and let disappear only the 50px or so so above it.</p>
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		<title>By: WillPeavy</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269728</link>
		<dc:creator>WillPeavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. I like the demo.
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Also, Yahoo uses a similar effect on http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker (watch the ads in the left column as you scroll down)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I like the demo.<br />
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Also, Yahoo uses a similar effect on <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker</a> (watch the ads in the left column as you scroll down)</p>
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		<title>By: ndluthier</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269727</link>
		<dc:creator>ndluthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also doesn&#039;t work well in Opera 9.62. I didn&#039;t know what was going on until i tried it in FF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also doesn&#8217;t work well in Opera 9.62. I didn&#8217;t know what was going on until i tried it in FF.</p>
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		<title>By: kazukin</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269723</link>
		<dc:creator>kazukin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>disaster in ie6</description>
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		<title>By: MattCoz</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269722</link>
		<dc:creator>MattCoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tomh: What do you mean?  It scrolls normally without JavaScript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomh: What do you mean?  It scrolls normally without JavaScript.</p>
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		<title>By: tomh</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269715</link>
		<dc:creator>tomh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sucks that it doesn&#039;t degrade well. Doesn&#039;t scroll at all with JavaScript turned off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sucks that it doesn&#8217;t degrade well. Doesn&#8217;t scroll at all with JavaScript turned off.</p>
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		<title>By: pendensproditor</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269711</link>
		<dc:creator>pendensproditor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;Long and Long&quot; is where things will get weird, but unfortunately it isn&#039;t in the demo. You&#039;d start losing some control over scrolling specific columns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Long and Long&#8221; is where things will get weird, but unfortunately it isn&#8217;t in the demo. You&#8217;d start losing some control over scrolling specific columns.</p>
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		<title>By: dallard</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269699</link>
		<dc:creator>dallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I published something very similar in 2006.  
http://derekallard.com/blog/post/conditionally-sticky-sidebar/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I published something very similar in 2006.<br />
<a href="http://derekallard.com/blog/post/conditionally-sticky-sidebar/" rel="nofollow">http://derekallard.com/blog/post/conditionally-sticky-sidebar/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SchizoDuckie</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/pegs-automate-display-fixed/comment-page-1#comment-269696</link>
		<dc:creator>SchizoDuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it feels weird at all, it feels kind of natural to me. Shouldn&#039;t this be a part of browsers instead of interface hackery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it feels weird at all, it feels kind of natural to me. Shouldn&#8217;t this be a part of browsers instead of interface hackery?</p>
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