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		<title>By: junkiewise</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-285779</link>
		<dc:creator>junkiewise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a bookmarklet to kill these floats... http://hkpanda.posterous.com/web-20-pop-up-blocker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a bookmarklet to kill these floats&#8230; <a href="http://hkpanda.posterous.com/web-20-pop-up-blocker" rel="nofollow">http://hkpanda.posterous.com/web-20-pop-up-blocker</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tapety</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-260033</link>
		<dc:creator>Tapety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I have to use this kind of ads i prefer pop-under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I have to use this kind of ads i prefer pop-under.</p>
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		<title>By: tcwebmaster</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-259899</link>
		<dc:creator>tcwebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is right?</p>
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		<title>By: rent back</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-259230</link>
		<dc:creator>rent back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these are really annoying. we never use any popups on our sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these are really annoying. we never use any popups on our sites.</p>
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		<title>By: FIRSTSEOå¯¾ç­–</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-258419</link>
		<dc:creator>FIRSTSEOå¯¾ç­–</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I really hate pop-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I really hate pop-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Speed Dating</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-254205</link>
		<dc:creator>Speed Dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should worry about disguising your ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should worry about disguising your ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaps</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-253732</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want popup comment/suggestion form in my home page which passes through popup blocker. Looking for the resource to implement that. Hope will find soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want popup comment/suggestion form in my home page which passes through popup blocker. Looking for the resource to implement that. Hope will find soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-252437</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogs are the new business cards? Interesting aspect, but that&#039;s a saubject we could talk very long about and I believe there won&#039;t be a conclusion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs are the new business cards? Interesting aspect, but that&#8217;s a saubject we could talk very long about and I believe there won&#8217;t be a conclusion!</p>
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		<title>By: å¯¾ç­–</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-250972</link>
		<dc:creator>å¯¾ç­–</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think blogs are the new business cards as well.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think blogs are the new business cards as well.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Duncan</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-250876</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the standard nomenclature for this type of interaction is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;modal window&lt;/a&gt;. 

The term floats is a little confusing, especially when dealing with CSS because of the float property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the standard nomenclature for this type of interaction is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window" rel="nofollow">modal window</a>. </p>
<p>The term floats is a little confusing, especially when dealing with CSS because of the float property.</p>
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		<title>By: IP</title>
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		<dc:creator>IP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah.ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows is a important point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah.ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows is a important point.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These floating ads use the exact same techniques as all of the the new &#039;Web 2.0&#039; AJAX enabled sites. Block the ads and block the added functionality. Let&#039;s hope all of the cutting edge sites employed progressive enhancement in their design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These floating ads use the exact same techniques as all of the the new &#8216;Web 2.0&#8242; AJAX enabled sites. Block the ads and block the added functionality. Let&#8217;s hope all of the cutting edge sites employed progressive enhancement in their design.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-200421</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know - instead of trying to block them, avoid websites that use them. It&#039;s a well proven strategy. Eventually advertisers will have no one to bother. If that doesn&#039;t work out, I&#039;m sure you can find your Hilary Duff images on a different non-spamming website. Cause we &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; what you&#039;re doing ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know &#8211; instead of trying to block them, avoid websites that use them. It&#8217;s a well proven strategy. Eventually advertisers will have no one to bother. If that doesn&#8217;t work out, I&#8217;m sure you can find your Hilary Duff images on a different non-spamming website. Cause we <em>know</em> what you&#8217;re doing &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Schiller</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-190167</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The web will always have some sort of annoying pop-up or ad; it&#039;s what drives the whole thing. Blocking third-party JS might also help.

I highly recommend using the combination of DNSKong and eDexter. The former is a lightweight DNS proxy which resolves ad-serving domains (with user-editable filters, wildcards and so on) to 127.0.0.1, the latter is a very small web server which pumps out transparent 1x1-pixel GIFs. So eg., servedby.advertising.com resolves to 127.0.0.1 and requests go there rather than the actual host, custom JS and GIFs can be returned to prevent render errors etc.

Not only do I feel like I browse faster, it&#039;s much more free of ads and cookies. ;)

http://www.pyrenean.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The web will always have some sort of annoying pop-up or ad; it&#8217;s what drives the whole thing. Blocking third-party JS might also help.</p>
<p>I highly recommend using the combination of DNSKong and eDexter. The former is a lightweight DNS proxy which resolves ad-serving domains (with user-editable filters, wildcards and so on) to 127.0.0.1, the latter is a very small web server which pumps out transparent 1&#215;1-pixel GIFs. So eg., servedby.advertising.com resolves to 127.0.0.1 and requests go there rather than the actual host, custom JS and GIFs can be returned to prevent render errors etc.</p>
<p>Not only do I feel like I browse faster, it&#8217;s much more free of ads and cookies. ;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pyrenean.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pyrenean.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christian Decker</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-190148</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Decker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Lon, the detail that these layer ads are normally generated by JavaScript is not really important, if anything it helps to block them because often those scripts are loaded from known adertisement URLs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Lon, the detail that these layer ads are normally generated by JavaScript is not really important, if anything it helps to block them because often those scripts are loaded from known adertisement URLs.</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-189792</link>
		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simple to create a layer ad that works if javascript is disabled:

[style]
#ad
{
  display:block;
  position:absolute;
  top:20px; left:300px;
  width:200px; height:200px;
  border:solid 1px red;
  background-color:blue;
  color:white;
}
#ad:visited { display:none; }
[/style]

[a href=&quot;randomlink.html&quot; id=&quot;ad&quot; target=&quot;closead&quot;]
  Vlaqra
  [form action=&quot;buy.html&quot; method=&quot;get&quot;][input type=&quot;submit&quot; value=&quot;buy&quot; /][/form]
  [iframe name=&quot;closead&quot; src=&quot;about:blank&quot;][/iframe]
[/a]

Took 2 minutes to invent/build/test.

Now you need to turn off CSS to avoid floating ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simple to create a layer ad that works if javascript is disabled:</p>
<p>[style]<br />
#ad<br />
{<br />
  display:block;<br />
  position:absolute;<br />
  top:20px; left:300px;<br />
  width:200px; height:200px;<br />
  border:solid 1px red;<br />
  background-color:blue;<br />
  color:white;<br />
}<br />
#ad:visited { display:none; }<br />
[/style]</p>
<p>[a href="randomlink.html" id="ad" target="closead"]<br />
  Vlaqra<br />
  [form action="buy.html" method="get"][input type="submit" value="buy" /][/form]<br />
  [iframe name="closead" src="about:blank"][/iframe]<br />
[/a]</p>
<p>Took 2 minutes to invent/build/test.</p>
<p>Now you need to turn off CSS to avoid floating ads.</p>
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		<title>By: n0nick</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-189777</link>
		<dc:creator>n0nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilles, I think you should worry about disguising your ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows.
Last night my father rushed me to his room declaring &quot;look at this, a message box popped up saying I&#039;m their millionth user and I&#039;m getting rich!&quot;.

This sort of advertisement, tricking customers into thinking it&#039;s not one, should be regarded false in every media. Just like the little &quot;sponsored ad&quot; comment in newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilles, I think you should worry about disguising your ajax dialogs as standard winxp windows.<br />
Last night my father rushed me to his room declaring &#8220;look at this, a message box popped up saying I&#8217;m their millionth user and I&#8217;m getting rich!&#8221;.</p>
<p>This sort of advertisement, tricking customers into thinking it&#8217;s not one, should be regarded false in every media. Just like the little &#8220;sponsored ad&#8221; comment in newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-189546</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, i don&#039;t use it for advertising nor do i encourage the use of these kind of popups. I merely use mine in a controlled environment where i am sure the user has javascript turned on (cms/intranet applications). This improves usability without having to worry about popup blockers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, i don&#8217;t use it for advertising nor do i encourage the use of these kind of popups. I merely use mine in a controlled environment where i am sure the user has javascript turned on (cms/intranet applications). This improves usability without having to worry about popup blockers.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduo</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-189492</link>
		<dc:creator>Eduo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that popup blockers will have to use broader rules to get rid of these, and some users will just decide it all isn&#039;t worth it and turn Javascript off altogether.

I&#039;m worried that these new spawns of bad advertising will prompt more and more users into something that is already dreaded by most reading this site: &quot;The javascript-disabled browser&quot;. Don&#039;t deny it, even if you&#039;re building accessibility and scalability we&#039;re all secretly wishing for the day when Javascript covers 100% of the user base.

An alternative that used to work was using platypus to create greasemonkey scripts to get rid of these in individual sites. Now advertisers have caught on this and randomize element names and functions so it&#039;s harder to catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that popup blockers will have to use broader rules to get rid of these, and some users will just decide it all isn&#8217;t worth it and turn Javascript off altogether.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m worried that these new spawns of bad advertising will prompt more and more users into something that is already dreaded by most reading this site: &#8220;The javascript-disabled browser&#8221;. Don&#8217;t deny it, even if you&#8217;re building accessibility and scalability we&#8217;re all secretly wishing for the day when Javascript covers 100% of the user base.</p>
<p>An alternative that used to work was using platypus to create greasemonkey scripts to get rid of these in individual sites. Now advertisers have caught on this and randomize element names and functions so it&#8217;s harder to catch.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/popup-nightmare-20/comment-page-1#comment-189384</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did one for jQuery the other day (native XP aqua look). It is almost finished (only needs the iframe hack for msie) but this is a good example with this article. P.s. the code will be in jQuery SVN soon.
http://gilles.jquery.com/window/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did one for jQuery the other day (native XP aqua look). It is almost finished (only needs the iframe hack for msie) but this is a good example with this article. P.s. the code will be in jQuery SVN soon.<br />
<a href="http://gilles.jquery.com/window/" rel="nofollow">http://gilles.jquery.com/window/</a></p>
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