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	<title>Comments on: ProtoPacked 2.13:  Protoype + Script.aculo.us == 32kb</title>
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		<title>By: bistory</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-285895</link>
		<dc:creator>bistory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@magnosis and everyone that need up-to-date prototype and scriptaculous compressed, I made a last update to Protoculous.
You can grab the 2.0 release at &lt;a href=&quot;http://protoculous.wikeo.be/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://protoculous.wikeo.be/&lt;/a&gt;
Hope this will help someone ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@magnosis and everyone that need up-to-date prototype and scriptaculous compressed, I made a last update to Protoculous.<br />
You can grab the 2.0 release at <a href="http://protoculous.wikeo.be/" rel="nofollow">http://protoculous.wikeo.be/</a><br />
Hope this will help someone ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: magnosis</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-275532</link>
		<dc:creator>magnosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t I find any minified version of Script.aculo.us 1.8.2, which has been released back in Nov. 2008 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t I find any minified version of Script.aculo.us 1.8.2, which has been released back in Nov. 2008 ?</p>
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		<title>By: Randolph</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-256093</link>
		<dc:creator>Randolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righteous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righteous!</p>
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		<title>By: opticex</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-254719</link>
		<dc:creator>opticex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I just want to optimize the number of hit on my serveur but not compression : I only use protoculous-shrinkvars.js (@ 133Ko).
Is that correct ? 
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I just want to optimize the number of hit on my serveur but not compression : I only use protoculous-shrinkvars.js (@ 133Ko).<br />
Is that correct ?<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: jdalton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250928</link>
		<dc:creator>jdalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated v2.14:
    Added support for Scriptaculous 1.7.1_beta3.
    Added more links to info on JavaScript concatenation and compression.

To download go to:http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files
Click on &quot;protopacked_v2.14.zip&quot;

Please read the &quot;readme first.txt&quot; for all the information on this package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated v2.14:<br />
    Added support for Scriptaculous 1.7.1_beta3.<br />
    Added more links to info on JavaScript concatenation and compression.</p>
<p>To download go to:<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files</a><br />
Click on &#8220;protopacked_v2.14.zip&#8221;</p>
<p>Please read the &#8220;readme first.txt&#8221; for all the information on this package.</p>
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		<title>By: jdalton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250895</link>
		<dc:creator>jdalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>digitarald  - Following jslint can result in much pulling of hair, because many of jslints warnings are invalid or false. Prototypes code is valid without the missing semi-colons.
 
The script deployment method I use in my own projects utilizes something similar to jsmin and gzip compression too (http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3).

The ProtoPack package also includes gzipped versions of each release.

@ Scott â€“ I use Firefox to format Scriptaculous and Deans packer as well 8). The formatted versions included in ProtoPack will work with many different compressors including ShrinkSafe and Deanâ€™s Packer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>digitarald  &#8211; Following jslint can result in much pulling of hair, because many of jslints warnings are invalid or false. Prototypes code is valid without the missing semi-colons.</p>
<p>The script deployment method I use in my own projects utilizes something similar to jsmin and gzip compression too (<a href="http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3" rel="nofollow">http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3</a>).</p>
<p>The ProtoPack package also includes gzipped versions of each release.</p>
<p>@ Scott â€“ I use Firefox to format Scriptaculous and Deans packer as well 8). The formatted versions included in ProtoPack will work with many different compressors including ShrinkSafe and Deanâ€™s Packer.</p>
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		<title>By: devil1591</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250888</link>
		<dc:creator>devil1591</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 01:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad, scriptaculous 1.7.1 b3 is out :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad, scriptaculous 1.7.1 b3 is out :p</p>
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		<title>By: digitarald</title>
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		<dc:creator>digitarald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know its an old argument and people love to compress their javascript ... but a simple jsmin and gzip compression can compress normal code (code that&#039;s readable and not written using one-char variablenames) with ~85% and you don&#039;t have the problem that the heavy use of eval()/regexp during unpacking freezes older browsers.

And missing semicolons are not really valid code, to write warning-free give jslint a try or enable at least warnings in your firebug. Most people will never pay attention to it, but I feel better without warnings :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know its an old argument and people love to compress their javascript &#8230; but a simple jsmin and gzip compression can compress normal code (code that&#8217;s readable and not written using one-char variablenames) with ~85% and you don&#8217;t have the problem that the heavy use of eval()/regexp during unpacking freezes older browsers.</p>
<p>And missing semicolons are not really valid code, to write warning-free give jslint a try or enable at least warnings in your firebug. Most people will never pay attention to it, but I feel better without warnings :D</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use this tool to compress your js/css files correctly.

http://scott.carnett.name/downloads/jCompressor.zip

(uses Dean Edwards Packer and Mozilla Rhino).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use this tool to compress your js/css files correctly.</p>
<p><a href="http://scott.carnett.name/downloads/jCompressor.zip" rel="nofollow">http://scott.carnett.name/downloads/jCompressor.zip</a></p>
<p>(uses Dean Edwards Packer and Mozilla Rhino).</p>
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		<title>By: jdalton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250839</link>
		<dc:creator>jdalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex - As I mentioned in an earlier post the package that the other commenter, Ilkin pointed to, was not made by me. Look at my previous comments for clarification. I also mentioned that I use a similar method to yours in my own projects. Re-reading my comments may help.

I am not saying that my package should replace what you have. What you have works for you. This package is to help those who are looking for a quick way to get formatted and compressed forms of Prototype and Scriptaculous.

Developers can do whatever they want with the formatted, var-strunk, packed, and gzipped forms that my package offers. For example, if you use the var-shrunk version of Prototype in your setup it would give you a smaller gzipped file, thus lessening the over-all footprint.

ProtoPacked can be found only at:
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files

The smallest file size of the (Prototype/Scriptaculous combo) is correct @ 32.5kb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex &#8211; As I mentioned in an earlier post the package that the other commenter, Ilkin pointed to, was not made by me. Look at my previous comments for clarification. I also mentioned that I use a similar method to yours in my own projects. Re-reading my comments may help.</p>
<p>I am not saying that my package should replace what you have. What you have works for you. This package is to help those who are looking for a quick way to get formatted and compressed forms of Prototype and Scriptaculous.</p>
<p>Developers can do whatever they want with the formatted, var-strunk, packed, and gzipped forms that my package offers. For example, if you use the var-shrunk version of Prototype in your setup it would give you a smaller gzipped file, thus lessening the over-all footprint.</p>
<p>ProtoPacked can be found only at:<br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/files</a></p>
<p>The smallest file size of the (Prototype/Scriptaculous combo) is correct @ 32.5kb.</p>
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		<title>By: carlo de marchis</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250838</link>
		<dc:creator>carlo de marchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For thos fo you reading WIRED i&#039;ve thought of a new Jargon watch buzzword that we could create after reading a comment above:
IT&#039;S PROTOHYPE not PROTOTYPE :) love it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For thos fo you reading WIRED i&#8217;ve thought of a new Jargon watch buzzword that we could create after reading a comment above:<br />
IT&#8217;S PROTOHYPE not PROTOTYPE :) love it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250831</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Duffield</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250827</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Duffield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opps.. spelling.. 
Should have been &quot;I WASN&#039;T using everything in Scriptaculous..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opps.. spelling..<br />
Should have been &#8220;I WASN&#8217;T using everything in Scriptaculous..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Duffield</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250826</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Duffield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdalton - I stand corrected it is 51.7k for the full prototype and Scriptaculous when using the combine.php file to serve them up. I want using everything in Scriptaculous..  
(Scriptaculous 1.7.1 b2 + prototype 1.5.1 final)

Looks to be about on par with this method for final size, but adds the flexibility to be able to read the code and edit it at will on top of being able to add what ever other files I create myself.. Plus it also compresses CSS! 

This article says that the file &quot;protoculous-1.0.1.js&quot; is 32.5kb, but looking at the file after downloading it and it is 56k...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdalton &#8211; I stand corrected it is 51.7k for the full prototype and Scriptaculous when using the combine.php file to serve them up. I want using everything in Scriptaculous..<br />
(Scriptaculous 1.7.1 b2 + prototype 1.5.1 final)</p>
<p>Looks to be about on par with this method for final size, but adds the flexibility to be able to read the code and edit it at will on top of being able to add what ever other files I create myself.. Plus it also compresses CSS! </p>
<p>This article says that the file &#8220;protoculous-1.0.1.js&#8221; is 32.5kb, but looking at the file after downloading it and it is 56k&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jjjjj</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250818</link>
		<dc:creator>jjjjj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s Prototype, not Protoype</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s Prototype, not Protoype</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Everett</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250813</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Everett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: jdalton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250809</link>
		<dc:creator>jdalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Jackson - In their defense they write valid code, itâ€™s not up to them to support every JavaScript compressor out there. I would like them to at least throw in the missing semi-colons, but they have their reasons and I respect that. For now you can use the &#039;pre-formatted&#039; Prototype versions included in the package. This package has Original, Formatted, Compressed/Gzipped forms for every supported version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Jackson &#8211; In their defense they write valid code, itâ€™s not up to them to support every JavaScript compressor out there. I would like them to at least throw in the missing semi-colons, but they have their reasons and I respect that. For now you can use the &#8216;pre-formatted&#8217; Prototype versions included in the package. This package has Original, Formatted, Compressed/Gzipped forms for every supported version.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jackson</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250807</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great if the Prototype guys would add a few semicolons so we could pack Prototype more easily! Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great if the Prototype guys would add a few semicolons so we could pack Prototype more easily! Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jdalton</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250806</link>
		<dc:creator>jdalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex - What version of Prototype/Scriptaculous are you using? 32kb for those plus your own code tells me its probably not 1.5.1+1.7.1_beta2.

I actually use a similar method in my own projects. http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex &#8211; What version of Prototype/Scriptaculous are you using? 32kb for those plus your own code tells me its probably not 1.5.1+1.7.1_beta2.</p>
<p>I actually use a similar method in my own projects. <a href="http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3" rel="nofollow">http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Advanced.Scripts3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Duffield</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/protopacked-213-protoype-scriptaculous-32kb/comment-page-1#comment-250804</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Duffield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using the tip from here
http://rakaz.nl/item/make_your_pages_load_faster_by_combining_and_compressing_javascript_and_css_files

I dont bother with the mod rewrite stuff, and just pass my files along to the combine.php file directly... Makes prototype, Scriptaculous and my own scripts.js file combined into one file at 32k. 

Also this way, I can me making changes to my scripts.js file while building and still get the advantage of compression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using the tip from here<br />
<a href="http://rakaz.nl/item/make_your_pages_load_faster_by_combining_and_compressing_javascript_and_css_files" rel="nofollow">http://rakaz.nl/item/make_your_pages_load_faster_by_combining_and_compressing_javascript_and_css_files</a></p>
<p>I dont bother with the mod rewrite stuff, and just pass my files along to the combine.php file directly&#8230; Makes prototype, Scriptaculous and my own scripts.js file combined into one file at 32k. </p>
<p>Also this way, I can me making changes to my scripts.js file while building and still get the advantage of compression.</p>
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