Comments on: Prototype 1.6.1; Speed up, clean up, and team up http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Les http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275434 Les Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:48:05 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275434 The new doc is now available. http://api.prototypejs.org/ The new doc is now available.

http://api.prototypejs.org/

]]> By: fabienmenager http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275410 fabienmenager Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:09:45 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275410 They reverted to the old docs : http://www.prototypejs.org/api I think they are working on the new ones to be better and more useable. They reverted to the old docs :
http://www.prototypejs.org/api
I think they are working on the new ones to be better and more useable.

]]> By: vvtim http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275409 vvtim Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:40:02 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275409 Good release, terrible docs. One of the strong points I used to always tell people about Prototype was its excellent API docs. Now it's terribly hard to find what you're looking for. Anyone know of a mirror of the old docs? Good release, terrible docs.

One of the strong points I used to always tell people about Prototype was its excellent API docs. Now it’s terribly hard to find what you’re looking for.

Anyone know of a mirror of the old docs?

]]> By: auspex http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275407 auspex Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:09:37 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275407 [quote] YUI mootols and jQuery are more than enough for 99% of the cases, so why won’t these guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there? [/quote] That's funny question... I'd like to make another question: why don't those guys from jQuery, motools, YUI join the Prototype team or contribute with ideas instead of the other way around ?... the reason, Prototype was here before them, I'd say much before... Anyway, good to know there is progress in Prototype [quote]
YUI mootols and jQuery are more than enough for 99% of the cases, so why won’t these guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there?
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That’s funny question… I’d like to make another question: why don’t those guys from jQuery, motools, YUI join the Prototype team or contribute with ideas instead of the other way around ?… the reason, Prototype was here before them, I’d say much before…

Anyway, good to know there is progress in Prototype

]]> By: indiehead http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275406 indiehead Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:08:48 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275406 excellent news, after all those legions of prototype'ers moved into jQuery's bandwagon, it's good to see there's life in the ole girl yet. great work! excellent news,

after all those legions of prototype’ers moved into jQuery’s bandwagon, it’s good to see there’s life in the ole girl yet.

great work!

]]> By: eyelidlessness http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275405 eyelidlessness Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:50:46 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275405 "Why do they keep developing it?" Because tons and tons of developers use their library (it's hard to find statistics, but I think they still have a larger market share than any other single library)? "YUI mootols and jQuery are more than enough for 99% of the cases, so why won’t these guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there?" Why should the Prototype devs abandon their users and demand users either use a dead library or rewrite anything written to the Prototype API? For that matter, what possible harm is done by having another choice in libraries? “Why do they keep developing it?”

Because tons and tons of developers use their library (it’s hard to find statistics, but I think they still have a larger market share than any other single library)?

“YUI mootols and jQuery are more than enough for 99% of the cases, so why won’t these guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there?”

Why should the Prototype devs abandon their users and demand users either use a dead library or rewrite anything written to the Prototype API? For that matter, what possible harm is done by having another choice in libraries?

]]> By: thnkfstr http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275404 thnkfstr Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:37:26 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275404 @vsync ridiculous comment. many developers have used prototype extensively in existing projects since it was around long before jQuery. your line of logic makes the case that jQuery was 'inventing the wheel again' and that resig should've contributed to prototype instead of wasting the effort. @vsync

ridiculous comment. many developers have used prototype extensively in existing projects since it was around long before jQuery. your line of logic makes the case that jQuery was ‘inventing the wheel again’ and that resig should’ve contributed to prototype instead of wasting the effort.

]]> By: quantum00 http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275402 quantum00 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:33:01 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275402 This is awesome. One of the originals is still going. It's good to see another MAJOR competitor to help fight the jQuery (a.k.a. the new Internet Explorer) scourge (it's the only programming system in our modern world to make obfuscated Perl look readable.) The new features, though, aren't a big deal to me. Prototype's Element object is worth the size of Prototype. It's hard to believe that people actually use that $('.asdf').html('this is stupid') crap in jQuery. Long live DOM-builing without needing a plugin! This is awesome. One of the originals is still going. It’s good to see another MAJOR competitor to help fight the jQuery (a.k.a. the new Internet Explorer) scourge (it’s the only programming system in our modern world to make obfuscated Perl look readable.)

The new features, though, aren’t a big deal to me. Prototype’s Element object is worth the size of Prototype. It’s hard to believe that people actually use that $(‘.asdf’).html(‘this is stupid’) crap in jQuery. Long live DOM-builing without needing a plugin!

]]> By: vsync http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275401 vsync Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:58:32 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275401 Why do they keep developing it? It's like inventing the wheel again, just making 10 times the effort. YUI mootols and jQuery are more than enough for 99% of the cases, so why won't these guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there? Why do they keep developing it?

It’s like inventing the wheel again, just making 10 times
the effort. YUI mootols and jQuery are more than
enough for 99% of the cases, so why won’t these
guys just join an existing group and contribute their knowledge there?

]]> By: eyelidlessness http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275400 eyelidlessness Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:19:34 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275400 I'm happy to hear about Prototype progress, but I have to admit I finally gave in and switched to jQuery. Mostly it has to do with the type of work I've been doing, but jQuery's more concise syntax (shorter method names, fewer methods to do the same thing) generally suits my work better lately. That said, I think out of the box Prototype provides better tools for full application development than jQuery does. But for quick in-page interactions, jQuery can't be beat. This isn't meant to start a holy war, I'm just explaining why I'm less excited about Prototype progress than I would have been a few months ago. I’m happy to hear about Prototype progress, but I have to admit I finally gave in and switched to jQuery. Mostly it has to do with the type of work I’ve been doing, but jQuery’s more concise syntax (shorter method names, fewer methods to do the same thing) generally suits my work better lately. That said, I think out of the box Prototype provides better tools for full application development than jQuery does. But for quick in-page interactions, jQuery can’t be beat.

This isn’t meant to start a holy war, I’m just explaining why I’m less excited about Prototype progress than I would have been a few months ago.

]]> By: fabienmenager http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275398 fabienmenager Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:26:54 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275398 The next milestone seems to be 1.7, but I'm also very excited about this new release ! https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/milestones/current The next milestone seems to be 1.7, but I’m also very excited about this new release !
https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/milestones/current

]]> By: Jadet http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275397 Jadet Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:33 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275397 Tobie and Andrew taking the lead seems like just a formality, everyone who follows Prototype knows they were basically leading the project anyways. I'm excited to hear about Prototype 2. I hope there will be more open discussion about that and some sort of roadmap so we know what to expect. For the last year or so I'm used to hearing "that's planned for a next release" without things moving forward most of the time. With 1.6.1 out of the way let's hope those days are behind us and the project can pick up speed again. Tobie and Andrew taking the lead seems like just a formality, everyone who follows Prototype knows they were basically leading the project anyways.

I’m excited to hear about Prototype 2. I hope there will be more open discussion about that and some sort of roadmap so we know what to expect. For the last year or so I’m used to hearing “that’s planned for a next release” without things moving forward most of the time. With 1.6.1 out of the way let’s hope those days are behind us and the project can pick up speed again.

]]> By: lennyhorstink http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-161-speed-up-clean-up-and-team-up/comment-page-1#comment-275396 lennyhorstink Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:41:32 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=7347#comment-275396 Great work from the Prototype-team! :) Great work from the Prototype-team! :)

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