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		<title>By: realturk</title>
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		<dc:creator>realturk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ilaclama.us&quot; title=&quot;böcekler&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;böcekler&lt;/a&gt;
To be honest, I instantly had a thought about this technique:  wasn’t the DOMContentLoaded event purpose the one to avoid people waiting a full page download before they’re allowed to interact with it? … never mind, we cannot do much in any case in front of images dedicated layouts.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ilaclama.us&quot; title=&quot;kalorifer böce?i&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kalorifer böce?i&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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To be honest, I instantly had a thought about this technique:  wasn’t the DOMContentLoaded event purpose the one to avoid people waiting a full page download before they’re allowed to interact with it? … never mind, we cannot do much in any case in front of images dedicated layouts.<br />
<a href="http://www.ilaclama.us" title="kalorifer böce?i" rel="nofollow">kalorifer böce?i</a></p>
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		<title>By: realturk</title>
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		<dc:creator>realturk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I instantly had a thought about this technique:  wasn’t the DOMContentLoaded event purpose the one to avoid people waiting a full page download before they’re allowed to interact with it? … never mind, we cannot do much in any case in front of images dedicated layouts.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ilaclama.us&quot; title=&quot;çiyan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;çiyan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I instantly had a thought about this technique:  wasn’t the DOMContentLoaded event purpose the one to avoid people waiting a full page download before they’re allowed to interact with it? … never mind, we cannot do much in any case in front of images dedicated layouts.<br />
<a href="http://www.ilaclama.us" title="çiyan" rel="nofollow">çiyan</a></p>
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		<title>By: wuwei</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/queryloader-a-full-page-preloader/comment-page-1#comment-276438</link>
		<dc:creator>wuwei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phone developed into <a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/category/Flower-Girl-Dresses-804-1.html" rel="nofollow">flower girl dresses</a>today by the beginning of the straight shape to the folded shape, and then to subsequent variants of screw-cap, slide, etc. <a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/category/Flower-Girl-Dresses-804-1.html" rel="nofollow">discount flower girl dresses</a>I experienced a 20-year history of continuous innovation. The first clamshell phone is available in January ,Motorola <a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/category/Mermaid-Wedding-Dresses-811-1.html" rel="nofollow">mermaid style wedding dresses</a>328c, this phone is very pull stars at the time the wind. In the &#8220;bricks and mortar&#8221; era gathered, 328c, 95 <a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/category/Mermaid-Wedding-Dresses-811-1.html" rel="nofollow">mermaid wedding dresses</a>grams of weight is very thin and light, combined with an innovative folding design, make and receive calls need to be mobile to start walking in the street was very eye-catching. Now fold mobile phone has not<a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/category/Mermaid-Wedding-Dresses-811-1.html" rel="nofollow">mermaid syle wedding dresses</a> as popular then,manufacturers have phased out this type of product development and production. <a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/product/Column-V-neck-Pleated-Satin-Wedding-Dress-20355.html" rel="nofollow">Column V neck Pleated Satin Wedding Dress</a>In modern times you want to use the compact feature-rich mobile phones, folding phones have evolved with our new concept of some of departure. But in the long history of mobile phones, there are still a lot of the classic folding mobile phones have brought us to allure,<a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/product/Column-Sweetheart-Pleated-Satin-Wedding-Dress-20279.html" rel="nofollow">Column Sweetheart Pleated Satin Wedding Dress</a> NEC N8, Motorola V3, Panasonic VS3, Nokia N93i &#8230; &#8230; those familiar with mobile phones to complete their historical mission, but deeply imprinted in our hearts.<a href="http://www.weddingnova.com/" rel="nofollow">wedding dress</a></p>
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		<title>By: RobFrontEndDeveloper</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobFrontEndDeveloper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really useful; preloading images, especially background images etc from CSS that are not currently in-use on first render is a very real solution for web apps and complex user interfaces. However as mentioned above by others, there is absolutely no need to &#039;hide&#039; the page until everything has loaded, some real complex apps may do it, like gmail but that&#039;s different, you log into your email daily - you know what your waiting for.

I think this is best used behind the scenes, let the page render naturally showing people what&#039;s on the way, make it look like it&#039;s loading as fast as possible for them. All additional images for the application/ui can be loaded behind the scenes as the users begin to interact with the interface.

Your going out for dinner; someone comes to pick you up, knocks on your door and you&#039;re not ready or on the phone.. whatever. Do you let them wait outside? Nope, you let them in and they can just wait in the porch.

Basically, don&#039;t leave people out in the cold :)

Don&#039;t leave people out in the cold. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really useful; preloading images, especially background images etc from CSS that are not currently in-use on first render is a very real solution for web apps and complex user interfaces. However as mentioned above by others, there is absolutely no need to &#8216;hide&#8217; the page until everything has loaded, some real complex apps may do it, like gmail but that&#8217;s different, you log into your email daily &#8211; you know what your waiting for.</p>
<p>I think this is best used behind the scenes, let the page render naturally showing people what&#8217;s on the way, make it look like it&#8217;s loading as fast as possible for them. All additional images for the application/ui can be loaded behind the scenes as the users begin to interact with the interface.</p>
<p>Your going out for dinner; someone comes to pick you up, knocks on your door and you&#8217;re not ready or on the phone.. whatever. Do you let them wait outside? Nope, you let them in and they can just wait in the porch.</p>
<p>Basically, don&#8217;t leave people out in the cold :)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t leave people out in the cold. :)</p>
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		<title>By: OwenL</title>
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		<dc:creator>OwenL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I for one like it... and will be using it immediately... is it a simple effect? absolutely... but that can be built out to something more compelling... 

The best use case is for sites where a Flash look &amp; feel is required, but Flash is overkill (say a photographer&#039;s site that still wants solid SEO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I for one like it&#8230; and will be using it immediately&#8230; is it a simple effect? absolutely&#8230; but that can be built out to something more compelling&#8230; </p>
<p>The best use case is for sites where a Flash look &amp; feel is required, but Flash is overkill (say a photographer&#8217;s site that still wants solid SEO)</p>
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		<title>By: Jadet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@webreflection: Of course, but there&#039;s a lot more then simply loading what&#039;s underneath going on in applications like that, this wouldn&#039;t be a drop in replacement. Applications like that would benefit a lot more from incremental loading. I guess we can all agree that blocking a page is hardly ever a good thing. Just makes me wonder why this was posted, the web would seem a lot slower if people actually started using this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@webreflection: Of course, but there&#8217;s a lot more then simply loading what&#8217;s underneath going on in applications like that, this wouldn&#8217;t be a drop in replacement. Applications like that would benefit a lot more from incremental loading. I guess we can all agree that blocking a page is hardly ever a good thing. Just makes me wonder why this was posted, the web would seem a lot slower if people actually started using this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ifwdev: There&#039;s no need for cookies, just don&#039;t use this where you don&#039;t want it. If all your pages have exactly the same content you could use cookies since then there wouldn&#039;t be anything to preload, but if that is the case you probably need to rethink what you are doing.
.
For web applications incremental loading is much better then this, presenting people with what&#039;s loaded instead of hiding the entire page while they wait for everything to load gives the impression that your applications are snappier. Sites render like that by default so while this might look like a nice effect at first all it really does is cause everything to be perceived as slower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ifwdev: There&#8217;s no need for cookies, just don&#8217;t use this where you don&#8217;t want it. If all your pages have exactly the same content you could use cookies since then there wouldn&#8217;t be anything to preload, but if that is the case you probably need to rethink what you are doing.<br />
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For web applications incremental loading is much better then this, presenting people with what&#8217;s loaded instead of hiding the entire page while they wait for everything to load gives the impression that your applications are snappier. Sites render like that by default so while this might look like a nice effect at first all it really does is cause everything to be perceived as slower.</p>
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		<title>By: webreflection</title>
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		<dc:creator>webreflection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
There’s no such thing as a ‘classic’ loader gif for entire pages
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Jadet I hope you have used at least once gmail, hotmail, or images galleries ... there is a loading, and an animated gif and I am sure if you read my comment until the end you&#039;ll find out we have almost same thoughts about this technique but thanks for the comment.</description>
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There’s no such thing as a ‘classic’ loader gif for entire pages
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<p>Jadet I hope you have used at least once gmail, hotmail, or images galleries &#8230; there is a loading, and an animated gif and I am sure if you read my comment until the end you&#8217;ll find out we have almost same thoughts about this technique but thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: AWebDev</title>
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		<dc:creator>AWebDev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to see the underlying code. I could careless about the effect used, but I really need some good preloading code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to see the underlying code. I could careless about the effect used, but I really need some good preloading code.</p>
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		<title>By: ifwdev</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifwdev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few clicks?  Couldn&#039;t you just set a cookie after the first page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few clicks?  Couldn&#8217;t you just set a cookie after the first page?</p>
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		<title>By: eyelidlessness</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyelidlessness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it FrontPage that used to do this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it FrontPage that used to do this?</p>
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		<title>By: Darkimmortal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkimmortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 Jadet - This breaks user experience imho.

Although it does have potential uses in web applications and javascript games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 Jadet &#8211; This breaks user experience imho.</p>
<p>Although it does have potential uses in web applications and javascript games.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The classic animated gif, or the “loading…” text, could be now easily replaced &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s no such thing as a &#039;classic&#039; loader gif for entire pages, people do that in Flash, this makes your page look like you wanted to build it in Flash but couldn&#039;t so just went with a loader. What&#039;s worse is it reminds me of those cheasy IE page transitions nobody uses anymore.

People with a slow connection are used to images taking a while to load so why waste your time giving them something don&#039;t expect? They&#039;ll be irritated by it after a few clicks. This might impress some bad designers that still think IE page transitions make your pages look cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The classic animated gif, or the “loading…” text, could be now easily replaced </p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as a &#8216;classic&#8217; loader gif for entire pages, people do that in Flash, this makes your page look like you wanted to build it in Flash but couldn&#8217;t so just went with a loader. What&#8217;s worse is it reminds me of those cheasy IE page transitions nobody uses anymore.</p>
<p>People with a slow connection are used to images taking a while to load so why waste your time giving them something don&#8217;t expect? They&#8217;ll be irritated by it after a few clicks. This might impress some bad designers that still think IE page transitions make your pages look cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a simple effect, but it really impresses people. I integrated something like this almost as an afterthought into the software I work on, where the login/loading page fades away to reveal the application, and I&#039;ve heard from several sources how impressed they are with that simple fade effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a simple effect, but it really impresses people. I integrated something like this almost as an afterthought into the software I work on, where the login/loading page fades away to reveal the application, and I&#8217;ve heard from several sources how impressed they are with that simple fade effect.</p>
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