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	<title>Comments on: Quince: UX Pattern Explorer (in Silverlight)</title>
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		<title>By: zikje</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-273021</link>
		<dc:creator>zikje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The application is nice, but the content has little to do with user experience; they are just user interface patterns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The application is nice, but the content has little to do with user experience; they are just user interface patterns.</p>
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		<title>By: scoult01</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272979</link>
		<dc:creator>scoult01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh Silverlight, how I hate you for making the backend developers here think they are somewhat creative. Not to mention full screen + right click == scroll bars.
FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh Silverlight, how I hate you for making the backend developers here think they are somewhat creative. Not to mention full screen + right click == scroll bars.<br />
FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: andysky</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272969</link>
		<dc:creator>andysky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ThomasHansen, pmontrasio: Thank you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ThomasHansen, pmontrasio: Thank you. :)</p>
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		<title>By: pmontrasio</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272965</link>
		<dc:creator>pmontrasio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+100 for andysky
-100 for Silverlight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+100 for andysky<br />
-100 for Silverlight</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasHansen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272964</link>
		<dc:creator>ThomasHansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andysky
Brilliant explanation, epic one ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andysky<br />
Brilliant explanation, epic one ;)</p>
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		<title>By: polysign</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272959</link>
		<dc:creator>polysign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no fan of Silverlight either! I can&#039;t even install it on my PowerPC... come on!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no fan of Silverlight either! I can&#8217;t even install it on my PowerPC&#8230; come on!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mare</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272958</link>
		<dc:creator>mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is pretty cool, too:
http://ui-patterns.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is pretty cool, too:<br />
<a href="http://ui-patterns.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ui-patterns.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MorganRoderick</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272957</link>
		<dc:creator>MorganRoderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTML version ... that&#039;s very thoughtful of them ... a lot of sites who use the richer technologies could learn from that.

It&#039;s not exactly progressive enhancement, but it&#039;s a pretty good start, and it allows me to get the content. Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTML version &#8230; that&#8217;s very thoughtful of them &#8230; a lot of sites who use the richer technologies could learn from that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly progressive enhancement, but it&#8217;s a pretty good start, and it allows me to get the content. Kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: Halo</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272956</link>
		<dc:creator>Halo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They provide &lt;a href=&quot;http://quince.infragistics.com/UX-Design-Patterns.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an HTML version&lt;/a&gt; for those of us who don&#039;t want to install Silverlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They provide <a href="http://quince.infragistics.com/UX-Design-Patterns.aspx" rel="nofollow">an HTML version</a> for those of us who don&#8217;t want to install Silverlight.</p>
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		<title>By: golimpio</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272953</link>
		<dc:creator>golimpio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MattCoz I&#039;ve tried Moonlight once, but it was not a good experience (lots of memory + cpu consumption). I saw that they have a new alpha version that is supposed to be compatible with Silverlight 2,  but I didn&#039;t tried it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MattCoz I&#8217;ve tried Moonlight once, but it was not a good experience (lots of memory + cpu consumption). I saw that they have a new alpha version that is supposed to be compatible with Silverlight 2,  but I didn&#8217;t tried it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: andysky</title>
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		<dc:creator>andysky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little correction to my last paragraph:
Now, just remember this tiny little thing: **the Windows and Office platforms are what brings Microsoft money, by far**. So, which platforms do you think Microsoft is trying to protect? So, do you have any doubt that Silverlight is part of this strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little correction to my last paragraph:<br />
Now, just remember this tiny little thing: **the Windows and Office platforms are what brings Microsoft money, by far**. So, which platforms do you think Microsoft is trying to protect? So, do you have any doubt that Silverlight is part of this strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: doctorpacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorpacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverlight is part of Microsoft&#039;s strategy to re-gain control of the web via a Microsoft proprietary and patent-laden technology. This has been exhaustively documented at sites such as Groklaw and Boycott Novell.

Microsoft&#039;s anti-competitive behavior continues as strong as ever behind its facade of openness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverlight is part of Microsoft&#8217;s strategy to re-gain control of the web via a Microsoft proprietary and patent-laden technology. This has been exhaustively documented at sites such as Groklaw and Boycott Novell.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s anti-competitive behavior continues as strong as ever behind its facade of openness.</p>
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		<title>By: andysky</title>
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		<dc:creator>andysky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vordreller, ahmedkamel:

It&#039;s dangerous (and naive) for us developers to develop in proprietary platforms.

Platforms, by their very nature, should be public and open. They exist to bring us together. So they should never be controlled by a single private entity.

Imagine a world where a single company would control the air we breathe... Or the language we communicate in...

If we allow a company to own a platform that we build everything on, we are 100% dependent on this company.

This situation, of course, is wonderful for such a company -- they can do whatever they please, they can dictate the rules -- and we -- we can do nothing, we have become powerless.

In several sectors of our economy there is virtual no competition because the platforms, instead of open and standardized, are the property of a single company.

This situation must change. Because it serves only these few companies who dominate. It does NOT serve us -- the users, the consumers.

If Microsoft weren&#039;t still trying to win though the ownership and control of platforms, then they would be much more like, for example, Google. They would open source and standardize their platforms. They would work together with other rival companies to define the specs of new platforms, etc. They would build their solutions to support all the major OSes: Windows, Linux and Mac.

I know that Microsoft has, lately, started to open source and standardize a tiny bit of their technologies -- still, as you and me know, they are going through this process like snails...

The truth is that Microsoft isn&#039;t used to competing fairly. They are not used to winning through superior technology, but through &quot;lock-in&quot; solutions -- solutions where you become dependent on them -- i.e., Windows, Office.

I give you an example -- thousands of companies nowadays simply cannot switch to Linux without spending millions of dollars to &quot;free their data&quot; and use alternatives to their current applications. Why? Because:
- These applications use proprietary formats for data;
- These applications are closed-source and run only on Windows.

Now, just remember this tiny little thing: Windows and Office are the platforms that bring Microsoft money.  So, which platforms do you think Microsoft is trying to protect?  So, do you have any doubt that Silverlight is part of this strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vordreller, ahmedkamel:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s dangerous (and naive) for us developers to develop in proprietary platforms.</p>
<p>Platforms, by their very nature, should be public and open. They exist to bring us together. So they should never be controlled by a single private entity.</p>
<p>Imagine a world where a single company would control the air we breathe&#8230; Or the language we communicate in&#8230;</p>
<p>If we allow a company to own a platform that we build everything on, we are 100% dependent on this company.</p>
<p>This situation, of course, is wonderful for such a company &#8212; they can do whatever they please, they can dictate the rules &#8212; and we &#8212; we can do nothing, we have become powerless.</p>
<p>In several sectors of our economy there is virtual no competition because the platforms, instead of open and standardized, are the property of a single company.</p>
<p>This situation must change. Because it serves only these few companies who dominate. It does NOT serve us &#8212; the users, the consumers.</p>
<p>If Microsoft weren&#8217;t still trying to win though the ownership and control of platforms, then they would be much more like, for example, Google. They would open source and standardize their platforms. They would work together with other rival companies to define the specs of new platforms, etc. They would build their solutions to support all the major OSes: Windows, Linux and Mac.</p>
<p>I know that Microsoft has, lately, started to open source and standardize a tiny bit of their technologies &#8212; still, as you and me know, they are going through this process like snails&#8230;</p>
<p>The truth is that Microsoft isn&#8217;t used to competing fairly. They are not used to winning through superior technology, but through &#8220;lock-in&#8221; solutions &#8212; solutions where you become dependent on them &#8212; i.e., Windows, Office.</p>
<p>I give you an example &#8212; thousands of companies nowadays simply cannot switch to Linux without spending millions of dollars to &#8220;free their data&#8221; and use alternatives to their current applications. Why? Because:<br />
- These applications use proprietary formats for data;<br />
- These applications are closed-source and run only on Windows.</p>
<p>Now, just remember this tiny little thing: Windows and Office are the platforms that bring Microsoft money.  So, which platforms do you think Microsoft is trying to protect?  So, do you have any doubt that Silverlight is part of this strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Darkimmortal</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272948</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkimmortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of this couldn&#039;t be done with Javascript?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of this couldn&#8217;t be done with Javascript?</p>
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		<title>By: ahmedkamel</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272947</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmedkamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TNO:
can you emphasise on &quot;I have the same argument against Flash content, but to a lesser degree due to their recent trend towards more open solutions.&quot;, it&#039;s confusing me a bit too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TNO:<br />
can you emphasise on &#8220;I have the same argument against Flash content, but to a lesser degree due to their recent trend towards more open solutions.&#8221;, it&#8217;s confusing me a bit too.</p>
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		<title>By: TNO</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272946</link>
		<dc:creator>TNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ahmedkamel
Apparently my terminology usage is confusing you, so let me clarify:
.
#1 It requires a plugin to run the content which is what I am referring to as binary, see my second post and this time read what it says, not what you think I meant when I wrote it. 
.
&lt;i&gt;&quot;IE uses plugin support for SVG as well, does that make SVG binary?&#039;&lt;/i&gt;
See #1.
If content requires a user to install a plugin then it is unnacceptable. Yes even with SVG or X3D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ahmedkamel<br />
Apparently my terminology usage is confusing you, so let me clarify:<br />
.<br />
#1 It requires a plugin to run the content which is what I am referring to as binary, see my second post and this time read what it says, not what you think I meant when I wrote it.<br />
.<br />
<i>&#8220;IE uses plugin support for SVG as well, does that make SVG binary?&#8217;</i><br />
See #1.<br />
If content requires a user to install a plugin then it is unnacceptable. Yes even with SVG or X3D.</p>
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		<title>By: ahmedkamel</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272945</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmedkamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for Moonlight and Mono, which are never far behind the official releases</description>
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		<title>By: ahmedkamel</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/quince/comment-page-1#comment-272944</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmedkamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TNO:
Using the object tag doesn&#039;t make the format binary!

IE uses plugin support for SVG as well, does that make SVG binary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TNO:<br />
Using the object tag doesn&#8217;t make the format binary!</p>
<p>IE uses plugin support for SVG as well, does that make SVG binary?</p>
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		<title>By: TNO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MattCoz:
Looks pretty binary to me:
http://thenewobjective.com/temp/silverlight.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MattCoz:<br />
Looks pretty binary to me:<br />
<a href="http://thenewobjective.com/temp/silverlight.png" rel="nofollow">http://thenewobjective.com/temp/silverlight.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: MattCoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattCoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TNO: In my limited experience with Silverlight, I&#039;ve never used binary formats.  I use XAML and JavaScript.

@golimpio: Have you checked out Moonlight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TNO: In my limited experience with Silverlight, I&#8217;ve never used binary formats.  I use XAML and JavaScript.</p>
<p>@golimpio: Have you checked out Moonlight?</p>
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