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	<title>Comments on: Real-World Ajax Seminar, New York</title>
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	<description>Cleaning up the web with Ajax</description>
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		<title>By: john beck</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-71892</link>
		<dc:creator>john beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly i like the way they providing a lot of best-practices, such as provide the user with immediate feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly i like the way they providing a lot of best-practices, such as provide the user with immediate feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4790</link>
		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No podcast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No podcast?</p>
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		<title>By: Jani Turunen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jani Turunen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, having attended the event, I would think that David Heinemeier Hansson&#039;s point about getting rid of duplicate presentation code by the means of utilising innerHTML  is a very valid one. No one of us wants to build and then support rich internet applications that have one presentation layer for javascript enabled clients (by means of AJAX etc) and other layer for clients with javascript turned off.

The ideological &quot;shift&quot; from thinking of how to parse some propriatery XML data into nodes on the client (David made a point about &quot;Nodes are not for people&quot;) to just getting HTML (or XHTML) from the server and inserting that into your document with innerHTML, in my humble opinion, is something that we all should have a think about.

Providing HTML for non-AJAX capable clients and HTML for AJAX-capable clients just makes sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, having attended the event, I would think that David Heinemeier Hansson&#8217;s point about getting rid of duplicate presentation code by the means of utilising innerHTML  is a very valid one. No one of us wants to build and then support rich internet applications that have one presentation layer for javascript enabled clients (by means of AJAX etc) and other layer for clients with javascript turned off.</p>
<p>The ideological &#8220;shift&#8221; from thinking of how to parse some propriatery XML data into nodes on the client (David made a point about &#8220;Nodes are not for people&#8221;) to just getting HTML (or XHTML) from the server and inserting that into your document with innerHTML, in my humble opinion, is something that we all should have a think about.</p>
<p>Providing HTML for non-AJAX capable clients and HTML for AJAX-capable clients just makes sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Gonda</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4704</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Gonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, this event had 350 delegates on-site, and 15,000 viewers tuned in the simulcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, this event had 350 delegates on-site, and 15,000 viewers tuned in the simulcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4687</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good speakers, good topics, good conference. I like to see conferences where you have visual designers, user experience, information architects, developers all in the same room, hopefully all learning from each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good speakers, good topics, good conference. I like to see conferences where you have visual designers, user experience, information architects, developers all in the same room, hopefully all learning from each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Abacus</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4676</link>
		<dc:creator>Abacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of who lives very far from the events, I have been searching for full text  of the presentations. Thanks for the excerpts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of who lives very far from the events, I have been searching for full text  of the presentations. Thanks for the excerpts.</p>
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		<title>By: linb</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/real-world-ajax-seminar-new-york/comment-page-1#comment-4663</link>
		<dc:creator>linb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Register Before
March 14, 2006 at
11:59 PM EST to SAVE!
These events are limited to 200 delegates!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Register Before<br />
March 14, 2006 at<br />
11:59 PM EST to SAVE!<br />
These events are limited to 200 delegates!&#8221;</p>
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