Comments on: Safari 3.0: New Tricks

By: John Perkins

John Perkins — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:04:25 +0000

Does the Webkit nightly build also include support for calling XSL from javascript?

John Perkins
Salem, NH

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Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:44:44 +0000

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By: Bertrand Le Roy

Bertrand Le Roy — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:57:41 +0000

All right, so the dynamic script loading thing is FIXED. Woohoo! FYI, bug 5812. Thanks Guys.
I did not find the XML bugs yet so I’ll file them.

By: Bertrand Le Roy

Bertrand Le Roy — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:30:44 +0000

Leland: great news about the debugger. I can’t use nightly builds but I’m sure glad this will be solved. I’ll file bugs for the other problems. The dynamic script loading event is ultra-important for dynamic script loading scenarios. I’ve tried to file Safari bugs before but was unable to find the right place (the only site I found was a “Darwin” site that’s closed). Thanks.

By: Eric Caldwell

Eric Caldwell — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:55:00 +0000

3.0 sounds nice BUT, does 3.0 support WYSIWYG editors out there like TinyMCE and others? This has been driving me nuts. There are a couple but they deviate from standard JS and DHTML to accomplish this functionality (e.g java, etc).

Any ideas?

By: Hubris Sonic

Hubris Sonic — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:01:57 +0000

I figured Leland would be along to call people stupid. you are such a great Ambassador for Apple…

By: Leland Scott

Leland Scott — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:49:23 +0000

Bertrand, never assume you know what you think you know. As a web developer, I’ve never missed the first problem you mention, but I can tell you for sure that the second problem has been solved… at least, if you debug to the nightly WebKit build, which is a pretty good proxy for Safari 2.0. The nightly build now downloads with a javascript debugger called Drosera, and it includes an excellent CSS/DOM debugger (better in some ways than Firebug) called WebInspector. WebInspector is included in Safari 3.0.

Every browser has bugs… if you’re concerned about Safari bugs—and I’m glad you are!—it would help to stay informed by reading the WebKit wiki and blog, starting from http://www.webkit.org There are tons of useful extensions and enhancements going on, including fixes one of the longstanding complaints which you didn’t mention, the dreaded ContentEditable functions.

By the way, I’m writing this in Firefox 1.5 on the Mac, and I’m delighted to confirm that a recent extension does enable resizable textarea boxes in Firefox! Doesn’t work quite right yet in 2.0, but it will soon I’m sure. See this site to download it.

By: Bertrand Le Roy

Bertrand Le Roy — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:55:25 +0000

That’s nice, but not using a Mac as my main machine (and even if I did I’d use Firefox), these are not the enhancements I’m expecting.

As a web developer, I *need* Apple to fix those:

* have an event fired when a script has finished loading (as specified by the standard)
* Safari needs a debugger. The JavaScript console is not enough (and anyway, it needs to better handle multiuline error messages)
* Regular expression bugs
* XML parsing (no more mapping IMAGE to IMG, no systematic capitalization of tag names)

By: Caleb Buxton

Caleb Buxton — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:33:57 +0000

re: security over interface development (or vice versa)

The huge majority of the users care about browsing experience. A browser should focus on browser experience. That is what should be advertised and promoted.

“Oh, and incidentally, look at this list of security fixes.”

The only organization that needs to have security fixes as a promoted advantage are those that have security deficits advertised everywhere.

By: Mike Ritchie

Mike Ritchie — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:15:13 +0000

Resizable textareas is a real saver. I have the extension for Firefox, and I don’t think I could live without it now.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:20:17 +0000

Whilst this is cool, as a person looking at what else safari 3.0 has, i’m annoyed there is little security enhancements.

I just worry that Apple are pushing the UI factor harder than the security of the browsing experience

By: Arve

Arve — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:17:48 +0000

I’d like to point out that the ability to drag tabs out of the main application window is a feature that Opera has had for a few years. In addition, Opera lets you organize the tabs and windows through a window panel, where you can drag (multiple) tabs between open windows (Even preserving form content and similar when you move them).

By: rodrigo

rodrigo — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:42:42 +0000

The comment was about the other news ..about visualistic.

By: rodrigo

rodrigo — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:41:46 +0000

This is good looking but does not work in firefox.
It seems it uses the global event that exists only in IE.