Comments on: Salaries Go Up for Ajax Jobs

By: Njonas1

Njonas1 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:53:38 +0000

The salary may be going up in other countries but here in Italy web agencies are interested in complete programmers and not only in javascript coders.

My skills are javascript (OOP, Ajax), php, python, mysql, xhtml, xsl and css and my salary is still less than 1k Euros per month even though the cost of life is quite expensive, so a salary like like that is a dream for many italians

By: pallavi

pallavi — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:28:41 +0000

Well I don’t know exactly but in INDIA they consider AJAX as an additional technology to JAVA,JSP,Java script…
Certainly one can demand more package up to 30,000 Rs ($666/) per month if they know AJAX!

By: shailendra kamath

shailendra kamath — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:41 +0000

yes in india me as js programer get Rupees 10000 per month ($225/mo or about $2700/year)

By: sid

sid — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:39:51 +0000

in india ajax programmers get about Rupees 10000 per month ($225/mo or about $2700/year)
yes, its true!

By: maciafts

maciafts — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:43:57 +0000

Slvn, Lukasz Szajkowski. I strongly agree with you guys. I am also a js programer. Few people know how charming js is. its strange in the past people always thinking UI is a graphic designer thing. It’s hard to really find a proper team to work with. I think a person who know very much presetation level things such as cross-browser compatibility, designing html/js/css framework and splitting UI from bussiness logic is not easy. it requires photoshop, illustrator, good understanding of HTML(which is not simple as you think). at my expierence, a team which has a AJAX programer, progress of their project can be accelerated at least 20% percent. business logic, UI design perfectly isolated is not easy! we are not easy!

By: Raage

Raage — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:50:22 +0000

I am part of a team who is developing a three tier artchitecture with Ajax(using Dojo toolkit). It is very clean to develop a good java script code with dojo (actually similiar to JAVA). I have worked on the server side many years(Database, J2EE), and I have never liked working on UI part (especaily AWT/SWing/SWT ), but now I am falling in love with Ajax(thanks go Google). It is not enough to know only JS to develop an enterprise application using Ajax as a front end. If you are programming a website, then JS is enough

By: Frankie

Frankie — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:47:00 +0000

Hi @all…
For those who have never heard of a programmer that works with JS only, I am such a person. I have developed my own JS-only framework depending 100% on webservices… I am very happy with it since it is exactly what I wanted and didnÂ´t find in other FWs – absolute encapsulation of JS objects on a site…
I have to say that just recently I had a discussion with a high-rank JAVA programmer, who stated that it is impossible to write good code in JS. I was very annoyed about that. In my opinion you can write quality code in every language.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:36:59 +0000

I am among those JavaScripters that don’t do any other language. I got a small taste of Java a few years ago that introduced me to object oriented coding, MVC, etc. It wasn’t enough to make that my focus but I could tell it wouldn’t be hard.

A couple of years ago, I considered switching, but then came Ajax. Now my front-end code is more influential to the application architecture than the .net or Java.

A recruiter recently contacted me and liked my general experience but seemed hesitant about the rate I suggested to lure me away from my current position. I mentioned “Ajax” and the tone in his voice changed immediately. Who knows how much I could have gotten if I had been willing to leave.

I’m not bragging. This would probably be the case with most folks who read this blog. Thanks Ajax!

By: Wangtam

Wangtam — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:49:33 +0000

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By: Mario

Mario — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:48:59 +0000

Must Be Paid By The Word. 8P (J/K)

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:20:56 +0000

I’ve never understood why so many front-end developers are (have allowed themselves to be) so miserably undervalued in the past. I think part of the problem is that there are so many incompetent/sloppy front end developers (though the current renaissance in front end development is starting to separate the wheat from the chaff).
I am a dedicated front-end developer at an advertising agency and I do a lot of challenging work (for which I am well compensated). A good front-end developer is priceless, but they are still pretty hard to come by. To some extent I think this is why front-end development has been treated like the programmers equivalent of unskilled labor for so long.
My company deals with freelance front-end coders from time to time and the good ones are (still) few and far between. I still run into front-end people who use tables for layout, invalid markup and only test their sites on IE … I think that’s why front-end developers have been undervalued for so long—because so many did the bare minim for so long, very few people have seen what kind of stuff you can do on the front end (until very recently).
In fact, good front-end development work requires a lot of competency in a number of specific areas. In addition to managing the complexities inherent to creating software that must run just as well in such wildly diverse clients as Safari, Opera, Firefox, Internet Explorer, iCab, Omniweb, and Netscape, a good developer will keep structure, behaviour and style totally separate, use semantically appropriate markup, coordinate with backend developers and in all probability a flash developer or two. A good front-end developer will in all likelihood be playing an advisory role to art directors and designers for complex projects that involve a highly-dynamic UI.
Most of the dynamic UI stuff that people are doing as a consequence of the newfound popularity of so-called AJAX apps is stuff that plenty of good front-end developers have been doing for years (minus the xmlhttp part). Of course, being able to dynamically load content into a page without reloading the page makes all that dynamic UI stuff much more valuable and gives it a bigger payoff.
It also seems to me that end users are becoming increasingly intolerant of flash and that the creatives who design the sites are really starting to see the benefit of using javascript and css to drive a dynamic UI rather than resorting to .swf developers. I’m seeing more and more instances in my agency and others where .swf is treated as a dynamic image format (or being eschewed altogether).
To me, it makes no sense that any decent front-end developer would accept substandard compensation.

By: Slvn

Slvn — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:14:59 +0000

“Interactive media agencies have had JS specialists for a long, long time. It would appear that the corporate world is catching up”

very true

By: Ben Galbraith

Ben Galbraith — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:27:23 +0000

Jesse, nblade: Interactive media agencies have had JS specialists for a long, long time. It would appear that the corporate world is catching up.

By: Sam Foster

Sam Foster — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:39:19 +0000

The Ajax crowd does seem to be split between UI-minded “traditional” developers who count javascript/ajax dev. as one of several languages/skillsets, and the formerly-undervalued front end developer. This doesnt mean that we now value front-end development skills more, but that there’s more challenging and valuable work to do there.
I can confirm – based only on the recruiter calls I’ve been getting – that ajax seems to be the magic word these days. Everyone and their brother is looking for experienced folks with demonstrated (or sometimes not) experience with ajax and rich ui web development. If the system works, the demand should force salaries up.

By: Uriel Katz

Uriel Katz — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:48:37 +0000

ok i get it,it is for year,in israel is used to talk about the salary in pay per month.and a correction:about 5000$ ,my bad

By: steve f

steve f — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:21:31 +0000

Yeah but half of that Israel paycheck is danger money

By: Adnan Siddiqi

Adnan Siddiqi — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:04:28 +0000

Time to fool lots of companies in name of ‘AJAX’ ;)

By: Uriel Katz

Uriel Katz — Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:45:47 +0000

is that for year or for month?
In Israel the average paycheck per month is 6000$

By: nblade

nblade — Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:05:08 +0000

I have to agree with Jesse. I haven’t known someone who is only a js programmer. So I’m sure the monetary amount is for someone with real programming experience that just happens to know js very well. Stephan, if that’s just someone that ONLY knows js, then I can understand that pay rate. (Even with all the AJAX stuff). If its someone with more than just js experience, then I’d suggest its time to find a new place to live maybe? (Of course what do I know, I’m on the other side of the Atlantic Pond)

By: stephan

stephan — Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:32 +0000

$74,588 for js programer ? That’s just crazy !
In France, it s hard (at this moment) for a js programmer to find a job payed more than the equivalent of $20,000.