Comments on: Scripty2 has landed

By: JohnResig

JohnResig — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:41:47 +0000

I’m hugely impressed by the work that Thomas Fuchs has done here. JavaScript-based animations always need to be pushed to get that extra ounce of performance and wizz-bang, I’m really glad to see Thomas bringing everyone forward. Congrats Thomas!

@ThomasHansen: Scriptaculous was released June 2005, jQuery was released January 2006. 7 months advance, not quite a few years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptaculous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JQuery

By: jdalton

jdalton — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:37:55 +0000

@Thomas Fuch – Great job. I am glad you’ve been able to continue your work on Scripty. I love the transition docs :D
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@anewton – What’s your point ?
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Moo has:
Fx.CSS (object), Fx.Tween, Fx.Morph and Fx.Transitions (~12 transitions) (MooMore – Fx.Elements, Accordion, Reveal, Scroll, Slide, SmoothScroll, Sort, and others)
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Scripty2 has:
s2.css (object), s2.fx.Element, s2.fx.Heartbeat, s2.fx.Parallel, s2.fx.Scroll, s2.fx.Style, s2.fx.Morph, s2.fx.Transitions (~42 transitions), and others.
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Can’t there be a framework/lib post without erm, mine-too framework trolls.
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At least acknowledge the hard work Thomas has put in :D

By: anewton

anewton — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:34:52 +0000

This is all stuff that’s been in MooTools for ages though.

By: Jadet

Jadet — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:36:39 +0000

Scripty2 has a much better intergration with todays Prototype. Just looking at the code shows a rewrite of effect rendering with Prototype’s custom events, that’s something you don’t get with any of the other libraries mentioned, those are better compared to scripty1. The custom events alone help to write less code that makes more sense since you can place code where it should be instead of having to search through your callback and chaining overkill.

Another big difference is that effects don’t start automatically in scripty2, you’ll have to start them yourself, it should have been that way all along IMO. Having all of the Robert Penner easing equations available is also a nice bonus. I can already think of a number ways to refactor my code with this.

By: eyelidlessness

eyelidlessness — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:32:32 +0000

I think the idea is that what Scripty offers that jQuery UI and mooTools don’t is Prototype compatibility. It’s supplemental, just like jQuery UI.

By: ryshaw

ryshaw — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:34:15 +0000

I think that @ajaxianreader123 has a legitimate question. I am not at all suggesting any kind of flame war, but I have the same question. What does this new version of scripty have that is new and cool? (because I know that Thomas is so innovative and smart, he wouldn’t have released something new if if there wasn’t significant new things)
For example I really like what YUI3 is doing with DataSource, History, and Stylesheet stuff. that is new, I don’t use yui but it is cool to see so that we can get the same functionality into other libraries. when jquery 1.3 came out, i really liked Live Events, that was cool and useful, event delegation built into the library.

Its true that it is possible to do most of the same things in any of the popular libraries but it is cool to hear what is new to the ones that are coming out. So, again, the question: What is new or cool that I couldn’t do or do as well/easily as before?

By: mjuhl

mjuhl — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:17:59 +0000

@ajaxianreader123 You should probably just be thankful that there are so many smart people out there who will let you use their code free of charge no questions asked. Plus, it’s always better to have options!

By: ThomasHansen

ThomasHansen — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:07:47 +0000

@ajaxianreader123
You’re asking the wrong question. ScriptAculous (the same author, this is effectively just the “2.0 version of” ScriptAculous in fact) was the *way* before jQuery, in fact by several years!
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So the question is “does jQuery provide something that this doesn’t”… ;)

By: OscarHiboux

OscarHiboux — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:30:27 +0000

Competition makes creativity, uh? :)

By: AWebDev

AWebDev — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:17:52 +0000

The one thing that really surprised me was that the swirly mad4milk-esque background thing is done not with scripty2/prototype but rapheal… a little false Advertisement?

By: ajaxianreader123

ajaxianreader123 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:45:14 +0000

I hate to be “that guy” but does this offer something over the other many, many other JS frameworks such as jQuery UI and mooTools?

By: Jadet

Jadet — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:12:30 +0000

This puts Prototype back on the map. Nice work Thomas.

By: Jani

Jani — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:37:11 +0000

Looks very nice. One of Scriptaculous’ strong points was in my opinion that it was relatively simple to do various effects and that seems to be there.

Btw check the puzzle demo. That’s a prime example of how to not make a puzzle, it was very annoying solving it with the weird behavior of the piece you replaced :D

By: icoloma

icoloma — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:43:01 +0000

It was being time! The demos look good, I will save some time to play with it a bit. Kudos to Thomas! :)

By: kyriakos

kyriakos — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:30:07 +0000

great! hope it goes into beta/release states soon. as a prototype/scriptaculous user i’ve been looking forward to a refresh of the API’s i use so frequently. I felt like it all went jquery for a while..