Comments on: Slashdot Having COWS over Ajax

By: EveryDigg » Blog Archive » Slashdot Having COWS over Ajax

EveryDigg » Blog Archive » Slashdot Having COWS over Ajax — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:05:52 +0000

[...] Their latest posting on the topic of Ajax, COWS Ajax – Ajax Evolved, is pretty much par for the course. It breathlessly tells us about a new technology Changeable Origin Web Services (COWS) Ajax that is supposed to take all the hassle and effort out of Ajax development.read more | digg story [...]

By: Craig Nuttall

Craig Nuttall — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:25:20 +0000

I disagree with this editorial on many points and feel there are a number of mischaracterizations. COWS Ajax was not meant to speed development, does not speed development, and was never touted as such. The notion of dynamic script tag Ajax being an “old chestnut” from the “Stone Age” is ridiculous and misleading. I do thank the author for correctly identifying that the real question is that of trusting third-parties.

I have written an article that is a bit of a rebuttal, but also attempts to focus on the third-party debate and some of the real questions we should be asking and trying to solve. I hope the Ajaxian staff would consider addressing the question more fully….

http://cows-ajax.sourceforge.net/ajaxian.php

Thanks,
-Craig

By: Slashdot goes nuts for COWS over Ajax

Slashdot goes nuts for COWS over Ajax — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:19:49 +0000

[...] Ajaxian reports that tech dinosaur Slashdot (and master of the tech universe) is running behind the times with new web tech. [...]

By: zelnaga

zelnaga — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:10:12 +0000

Dean Edwards – if you read the follow up, you’ll see this:

Now that it has been settled that itâ€™s not a cheap ripoff but rather a service inspired (and partly based on) my work it feels a lot better.

His other claims are true too, quite a few of the bugs and limitations found in my implementation has been resolved, and his description of the conceptual changes required for that could prove quite valuable.

Thanks and sorry about my accusations.

Also, henrah – can you post a link describing the iframe-within-iframe technique?

By: Philip Withnall

Philip Withnall — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:08:36 +0000

I would agree with the last three comments. Just because the Slashdot editors are not right up-to-date with every technology and facet of human life doesn’t mean it’s a bad news story. Slashdot is more about the ensuing discussion rather than the story itself, and I’m sure there’s a good one going on with that story, as always. As drakaan said, correcting and flaming stories like you are is up to the slashdotters, not the editors.

By: Dennis Forbes

Dennis Forbes — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:48:56 +0000

a) Slashdot isn’t a blog.

b) It’s just a story that was submitted and accepted. Don’t have a cow about it, okay?

Seriously, you sound like a lame cheerleader for the “other side” (in this case it worked perfectly — pandering to Digg was pretty good), just inventing “facts” to support your lack of argument.

Who gives a shit?

By: Dietrich Kappe

Dietrich Kappe — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:28:13 +0000

drakaan,

In a word, yes.

By: drakaan

drakaan — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:24:43 +0000

well, okay, but did you at least write your complaints about the article as a comment on slashdot so you could get your alloted “-1 Troll” mods?

I think the criticism should be more to the effect of “Slashdot moderators are hopelessly behind the times on technology X”, which is going to be true for anything, really. If you’re not keeping abreast of developments in a particular area, you wouldn’t know about the prior efforts at conquering a particular issue (like, say, if you were me, and actually thought that it *was* news).

The good thing about slashdot, in thus respect (and it’s gotten better with the tagging feature) is the ability of contributors to chime in with exactly this kind of criticism or clarification and have others say “hey, he’s right, mod parent up”.

The mods should do a minimal job of seperating wheat from chaff (which they pretty much do), and slashdotters should do a thorough job of discussing, correcting, and eviscerating each article (which they pretty much do).

I’d recommend tagging the article “notnews” and entering the flamewar of your choice in the article comments.

By: Ryan Gahl

Ryan Gahl — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:16:44 +0000

@henrah: Or you can use a server proxy with a good handshaking (auth) mechanism and request/response validation.

By: henrah

henrah — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:32:03 +0000

I think for a long time, the only safe way to do a cross-domain xhr of any kind will be dojo’s iframe-within-an-iframe location.hash message-passing trick, since that’s the only kind of data which documents from different domains can share without making the DOM available to one another.

By: Dean Edwards

Dean Edwards — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:09:17 +0000

SpellingCow also ripped off WebFX:

http://me.eae.net/archive/2006/09/04/spellingcow/