Comments on: State of the Open Web Talk

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By: Brad Neuberg

Brad Neuberg — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:50:40 +0000

@jazid: Thanks for the link! I didn’t realize that we’d acquired them :)

By: jazid

jazid — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:42:37 +0000

Brad, you can use http://omnisio.com/ (recently aquired by Google :P) to sync slides with the video!

By: ThomasHansen

ThomasHansen — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:41:03 +0000

@Brad
Nice talk Brad! :)
I wouldn’t “condense” the Ajax libraries to only three (four) due to historical reasons. For one first of all MooTools is probably by far one of the best JS libraries out there. Secondly less than 2 years ago prototype had like 85% of all Ajax in the world which is weird when looking at jQuery’s position today. And third of all by condensing the libraries into three big ones you’re ending up hurting a lot of people – meaning alienating and creating resistance in some parts of your audience… ;)
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And as an evangelizer (advocate) you want to “embrace them all”… ;)
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One thing though, when you talk about “Open Web for newbies” like this session obviously is all about, why don’t you talk more about Managed Ajax Libraries?
(ref; http://ra-ajax.org/managed-ajax-a-new-approach-to-ajax.blog)
Which is explicitly built to be “Ajax without the hassle” for “non JS gurus”. Sure there’s not that many around, but at least there’s Ra-Ajax for .Net and GWT for Java. And that’s probably more than half the world’s developers…

By: Brad Neuberg

Brad Neuberg — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:18:03 +0000

@TNO: Yeah, the camera person was disappointing. Some of this stuff might be a bit basic for us, but I really want to expand the community of folks who know what the Open Web, SVG, the Canvas tag, etc. are way beyond our community into the rank and file of developers — we’ve got to get beyond just the Ajax gurus. Actually, lots of folks raised their hands for knowing JavaScript but the camera didn’t capture that well. The audiences I talked to knew what SVG and the Canvas tag are as well (though they knew SVG more than Canvas, which was a bit surprising), but they didn’t have broad knowledge of HTML 5.

By: TNO

TNO — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:56:58 +0000

Pretty basic stuff but fundamental. I’m surprised by the number of people who didn’t raise their hand for JavaScript. The camera person sucks. I don’t want to watch a presentation and NOT see the slides…