Friday, April 17th, 2009

SVG Open 2009: “SVG coming of age”

Category: Announcements, Conferences, SVG

<p>Cool things are finally happening with SVG these days. It’s showing up natively in browsers (including Firefox, Safari, Opera, Chrome and more). It’s natively supported on the iPhone, and work is happening in various open source communities to create options for Internet Explorer. Google uses it under the covers in Google Maps (to create vector line drawings showing where to go); Google Docs (for drawing into presentations); and more. Wikipedia, one of the top web sites on the Internet, has a huge repository of SVG images, while many tools such as Inkscape, Illustrator, and Visio can either export to SVG or work with it natively. Vector graphics support through SVG and Canvas is consistently one of the top voted requests by developers.

Since more and more is happening with SVG these days, we thought it would be great to host the SVG Open 2009 conference this fall in Mountain View at the Google campus from October 2-4, 2009. The theme this year is “SVG coming of age”.

We are looking for contributors to present papers or teach courses. Presenters are asked to submit an extended abstract in English with an approximate length of 400 to 800 words by May 15 to http://www.svgopen.org/. The abstracts are reviewed by a reviewing committee and presenters will be informed about acceptance on or before June 26. If your abstract is accepted, you will be asked to submit your full paper by August 31, according to instructions that will be sent to you.

I’d love to see presentations from the Ajax community combining SVG with JavaScript in various creative ways. Come and join us in the fall at SVG Open!

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I think what is happening with MochiKit/SVG is also quite interesting. http://trac.mochikit.com/wiki/MochiKitSVG

The problem with SVG is that it doesn’t work in all browsers and besides that when it does it can get really large and slow with anything advanced. Even Wikimedia often exports SVG to PNG on the server-side to display it in the browser.

Comment by jhuni — April 17, 2009

I know there has been a lot of talk amongst the community recently about Canvas and SVG but 75% of users are on a browser which is highly unlikely to support them, so for web developers like us it’s not something we could even consider using in 95% of projects.

Comment by TVIdesign — April 17, 2009

It’s disappointing that Firefox is lagging behind when it comes to SVG as an image. With an increasingly scalable web it’s that implementation of SVG that developers would desire most. Yeah, we can have fluid animations without the need for flash but everyone has flash and flash can’t be a background image.

And speaking of background images, it’s going to be while yet until I can style them with CSS. Actually, doesn’t the spec specifically prohibit that?

Comment by StuartJ — April 17, 2009

TVIdesign: As Brad mentions, there are projects which are routing around Microsoft’s slowness in this area

Comment by codedread — April 17, 2009

Given the amazing upsides of SVG, I expect there to be a ‘killer web app’ leveraging SVG that becomes popular enough to cause even more people to upgrade their browsers.
(Of course, I’ve been saying that since firefox 1.5 started supporting SVG..)

Comment by ivar — April 17, 2009

Oh, I need a shim for MSIE to use a web standard that the other browsers support? Big news. It certainly doesn’t keep me from using SVG, canvas and (with Flash fallback) right now. The bigger problem is inline SVG requiring an XML mimetype.

Comment by randomrandom — April 17, 2009

… and <video> (with Flash fallback) …

Comment by randomrandom — April 17, 2009

SVG is so promising. I guess W3C shouldn’t have invented CSS in the first place, they could just as well augment a vector graphics library with reactivity (ala Flapjax). :)

Comment by chiaroscuro — April 17, 2009

@randomrandom, you can do inline SVG without an XML mimetype by using an object or iframe tag with the SVG content in a data:URI.

Comment by JonathanLeech — April 17, 2009

Hi folks, I agree that we must have Internet Explorer support for SVG to be realistic. I’ve been working with James Hight and Rick Masters on an open source project that uses Flash + JavaScript tricks to do rendering on IE called SVG Web. It’s still in development but I’m hoping we can get it out the door at some point.

Comment by Brad Neuberg — April 17, 2009

@randomrandom: The other aspect of the SVG Web project is to allow you to embed SVG into normal text/html content, so that you don’t have to use XHTML as well.

Comment by Brad Neuberg — April 17, 2009

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