Comments on: SVG Open 2009: “SVG coming of age”

By: Brad Neuberg

Brad Neuberg — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:04:33 +0000

@randomrandom: The other aspect of the SVG Web project is to allow you to embed SVG into normal text/html content, so that you don’t have to use XHTML as well.

By: Brad Neuberg

Brad Neuberg — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:03:28 +0000

Hi folks, I agree that we must have Internet Explorer support for SVG to be realistic. I’ve been working with James Hight and Rick Masters on an open source project that uses Flash + JavaScript tricks to do rendering on IE called SVG Web. It’s still in development but I’m hoping we can get it out the door at some point.

By: JonathanLeech

JonathanLeech — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:02:43 +0000

@randomrandom, you can do inline SVG without an XML mimetype by using an object or iframe tag with the SVG content in a data:URI.

By: chiaroscuro

chiaroscuro — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:15:14 +0000

SVG is so promising. I guess W3C shouldn’t have invented CSS in the first place, they could just as well augment a vector graphics library with reactivity (ala Flapjax). :)

By: randomrandom

randomrandom — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:45:19 +0000

… and (with Flash fallback) …

By: randomrandom

randomrandom — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:44:21 +0000

Oh, I need a shim for MSIE to use a web standard that the other browsers support? Big news. It certainly doesn’t keep me from using SVG, canvas and (with Flash fallback) right now. The bigger problem is inline SVG requiring an XML mimetype.

By: ivar

ivar — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:18:53 +0000

Given the amazing upsides of SVG, I expect there to be a ‘killer web app’ leveraging SVG that becomes popular enough to cause even more people to upgrade their browsers.
(Of course, I’ve been saying that since firefox 1.5 started supporting SVG..)

By: codedread

codedread — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:06:02 +0000

TVIdesign: As Brad mentions, there are projects which are routing around Microsoft’s slowness in this area

By: StuartJ

StuartJ — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:04:53 +0000

It’s disappointing that Firefox is lagging behind when it comes to SVG as an image. With an increasingly scalable web it’s that implementation of SVG that developers would desire most. Yeah, we can have fluid animations without the need for flash but everyone has flash and flash can’t be a background image.

And speaking of background images, it’s going to be while yet until I can style them with CSS. Actually, doesn’t the spec specifically prohibit that?

By: TVIdesign

TVIdesign — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:58:01 +0000

I know there has been a lot of talk amongst the community recently about Canvas and SVG but 75% of users are on a browser which is highly unlikely to support them, so for web developers like us it’s not something we could even consider using in 95% of projects.

By: jhuni

jhuni — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:23:40 +0000

I think what is happening with MochiKit/SVG is also quite interesting. http://trac.mochikit.com/wiki/MochiKitSVG

The problem with SVG is that it doesn’t work in all browsers and besides that when it does it can get really large and slow with anything advanced. Even Wikimedia often exports SVG to PNG on the server-side to display it in the browser.