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	<title>Comments on: The 2007 Ajax Turkeys</title>
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	<description>Cleaning up the web with Ajax</description>
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		<title>By: Pether Sorling</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259506</link>
		<dc:creator>Pether Sorling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinwire is an excellent framework, great community and improving every day. Maybe he should get his fact right, many ways to not have to specify specify position and calculate height and width of every widget.. 

With so blatant error I would dismiss the whole article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinwire is an excellent framework, great community and improving every day. Maybe he should get his fact right, many ways to not have to specify specify position and calculate height and width of every widget.. </p>
<p>With so blatant error I would dismiss the whole article.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259267</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mhr:

But he doesn&#039;t condemn neonazis. Pretty well neutralizes any potential support from Semitic ol&#039; me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mhr:</p>
<p>But he doesn&#8217;t condemn neonazis. Pretty well neutralizes any potential support from Semitic ol&#8217; me.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Thuerigen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259257</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Thuerigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-reading my comment: I should apologize to google - it is not all eye-candy ;-) its just unbelievable what some of their sites do to the global namespace - brrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-reading my comment: I should apologize to google &#8211; it is not all eye-candy ;-) its just unbelievable what some of their sites do to the global namespace &#8211; brrr.</p>
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		<title>By: mhr</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259252</link>
		<dc:creator>mhr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in other news: 
ron paul condemns the war on terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in other news:<br />
ron paul condemns the war on terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Thuerigen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259236</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Thuerigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firebug, sry</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Thuerigen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259235</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Thuerigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And BTW and CC: you should really get rid of those errors firefox presents me with when I go to this site - google, right? 
 ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And BTW and CC: you should really get rid of those errors firefox presents me with when I go to this site &#8211; google, right?<br />
 ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Thuerigen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-2007-ajax-turkeys/comment-page-1#comment-259234</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Thuerigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dietrich, it took me a whole day to answer on this. 
- ES4 is the only spark that we have on JS. I like the heated discussion, and it will surely yield results.
- GMail2 is a direct result of user-centric and marketing-driven development. Every company that tries to serve first and do the basics later suffers that fate.
- Both jQuery and mooTools are great ;-)
- the real Ajax turkey is that even Million$ companies donÂ´t seem to have the money to really dig into JS. googleWhatever is the best sample for it. All I see is eye candy, but no substance.
My $0.02 of course.
Cheers, Frankie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dietrich, it took me a whole day to answer on this.<br />
- ES4 is the only spark that we have on JS. I like the heated discussion, and it will surely yield results.<br />
- GMail2 is a direct result of user-centric and marketing-driven development. Every company that tries to serve first and do the basics later suffers that fate.<br />
- Both jQuery and mooTools are great ;-)<br />
- the real Ajax turkey is that even Million$ companies donÂ´t seem to have the money to really dig into JS. googleWhatever is the best sample for it. All I see is eye candy, but no substance.<br />
My $0.02 of course.<br />
Cheers, Frankie</p>
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