Thursday, November 1st, 2007
>It seems like we are reaching a boiling point for ECMAScript 4. The politics and opinions are growing. Opinions are good. Brendan spoke out recently and we have had a raft of blogs and comments on the matter recently.
Microsoft have been criticized by some for going dark on IE 8, and then came out of the woodwork with a slew of posts:
- JScript has a blog, and this entry lets you know their thoughts
- Then the IE blog got into the mix
- And, Chris Wilson himself put his thoughts on record.
There are some interesting quotes though out:
The bugs are in JScript, not elsewhere (ok, 97%, not 100%)
Plain and Simple: IE/JScript’s lack of development has been holding back the web, web standards, and innovation. Period.
We don’t care what the hacks/hooks/triggers are, just please:
a.) Fix the bugs
b.) Add the missing implementations
c.) Keep us informed while doing so
d.) Ship the patches, fixes, new browser versions with the fixes.
e.) Don’t get us all excited about new technology until the standard technologies are already taken care of.
Please fix your JScript and DOM first.
document.getElementById should NOT return elements by NAME.
allow prototyping of ALL objects, including DOM and XMLHttpRequest
Fix you DOM Event model
element.getAttribute should return the EXACT VALUE OF THE ATTRIBUTE, for all attributes on all elements.
Dean Edwards (Chris Wilson answers)
This is clearly FUD. You mention ES3 in the headline and then link to a negative article about ES4. You suggest a new language but have not participated in the design of ES4 at all.
You say that “Microsoft” think that the web is best served by the creation of a new language. Your name is at the bottom of this article. What do *you* think?
I want us to stop polarizing and start coming together. I was just listening to a water rights battle that has lasted 18 years (between various southern US states). The Web may not be quite as finite as the water resources, or important to survival, but I think it is time for us to be a bit more like the west than the south. Let’s all come together and discuss the issues. When engineers get in the same room great things happen. And, we are all engineers.
Posted by Dion Almaer at 12:01 am