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	<title>Comments on: The State of SVG Browser Support + Using Flash for SVG in Internet Explorer</title>
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		<title>By: morrisj</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-state-of-svg-browser-support-using-flash-for-svg-in-internet-explorer/comment-page-1#comment-280412</link>
		<dc:creator>morrisj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an update on this see http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/ - &quot;SVG Web is a JavaScript library which provides SVG support on many browsers, including Internet Explorer&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an update on this see <a href="http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/</a> &#8211; &#8220;SVG Web is a JavaScript library which provides SVG support on many browsers, including Internet Explorer&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: KurtCagle</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-state-of-svg-browser-support-using-flash-for-svg-in-internet-explorer/comment-page-1#comment-267054</link>
		<dc:creator>KurtCagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

Would you mind contacting me (kurt at oreilly.com). I&#039;m the online editor for XML and Web Development at O&#039;Reilly Media as well as a long time SVG evangelist, and would definitely like to find out more information about your efforts at Google to promote SVG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>Would you mind contacting me (kurt at oreilly.com). I&#8217;m the online editor for XML and Web Development at O&#8217;Reilly Media as well as a long time SVG evangelist, and would definitely like to find out more information about your efforts at Google to promote SVG.</p>
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		<title>By: adaptive</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-state-of-svg-browser-support-using-flash-for-svg-in-internet-explorer/comment-page-1#comment-267018</link>
		<dc:creator>adaptive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29€ (Flat price) for the inEvo tool is very affordable. Although open source is cool, there is no guarantee of continued development.
My experience is that in small open source projects developers get a better job and stop development</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29€ (Flat price) for the inEvo tool is very affordable. Although open source is cool, there is no guarantee of continued development.<br />
My experience is that in small open source projects developers get a better job and stop development</p>
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		<title>By: waynep</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/the-state-of-svg-browser-support-using-flash-for-svg-in-internet-explorer/comment-page-1#comment-267011</link>
		<dc:creator>waynep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mobile Safari doesn&#039;t support SVG even though it is mentioned in the iPhone Getting Started Videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mobile Safari doesn&#8217;t support SVG even though it is mentioned in the iPhone Getting Started Videos.</p>
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		<title>By: jmo7</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is of course the Renesis plugin (proprietary but free), which is being quite actively developed -- http://www.examotion.com/Renesis-Player.25.0.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is of course the Renesis plugin (proprietary but free), which is being quite actively developed &#8212; <a href="http://www.examotion.com/Renesis-Player.25.0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.examotion.com/Renesis-Player.25.0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: breiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>breiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually wrote a post on my blog on the same subject:

http://pitofknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/06/svg-to-go-mainstream-with-snow-leopard.html

Check it out if you found the post above interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually wrote a post on my blog on the same subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://pitofknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/06/svg-to-go-mainstream-with-snow-leopard.html" rel="nofollow">http://pitofknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/06/svg-to-go-mainstream-with-snow-leopard.html</a></p>
<p>Check it out if you found the post above interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: gavindoughtie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gavindoughtie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that IE supports data: urls, I was thinking we could do some kind of unholy canvas implementation in JS, perhaps rendering to bmp format, and thus fill in some of the gaps in the VML implementation. The main thing is: standard interface + IE implementation that doesn&#039;t make customers download anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that IE supports data: urls, I was thinking we could do some kind of unholy canvas implementation in JS, perhaps rendering to bmp format, and thus fill in some of the gaps in the VML implementation. The main thing is: standard interface + IE implementation that doesn&#8217;t make customers download anything.</p>
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		<title>By: ttrenka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ttrenka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brad--
This is one of the points of the DEFT project I started at Dojo--it aims to take the fine Flash work you started, and I continued, and use it to create a DojoX GFX renderer in Flash so that we can get the hell off VML in IE.  Unfortunately I have not had the time to work on it recently but I&#039;m hoping to get back to it in the near future (been working on other things, one of which slipped into DojoX quietly and which I will be talking about in the near future).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brad&#8211;<br />
This is one of the points of the DEFT project I started at Dojo&#8211;it aims to take the fine Flash work you started, and I continued, and use it to create a DojoX GFX renderer in Flash so that we can get the hell off VML in IE.  Unfortunately I have not had the time to work on it recently but I&#8217;m hoping to get back to it in the near future (been working on other things, one of which slipped into DojoX quietly and which I will be talking about in the near future).</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite feasible to use this for large drawings (megabytes of SVG). I&#039;ve had to build a floorplan viewer a few years back, and ended up converting from autocad dwg to svg on the server-side and rendering the svg in flash client-side. In general the performance was quite reasonable, but the biggest issue I ran across was the mismatch between flash&#039;s internal curve support and SVG&#039;s arcs. At the time there were only quadratic curves in flash&#039;s drawing api, and everything had to be converted to that. Maybe with the new AVM2 engine and improved drawing support this won&#039;t be an issue anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite feasible to use this for large drawings (megabytes of SVG). I&#8217;ve had to build a floorplan viewer a few years back, and ended up converting from autocad dwg to svg on the server-side and rendering the svg in flash client-side. In general the performance was quite reasonable, but the biggest issue I ran across was the mismatch between flash&#8217;s internal curve support and SVG&#8217;s arcs. At the time there were only quadratic curves in flash&#8217;s drawing api, and everything had to be converted to that. Maybe with the new AVM2 engine and improved drawing support this won&#8217;t be an issue anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: frenchStudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>frenchStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only interesting if we can integrate some SVG shapes into an HTML document and make it &quot;javascriptable&quot; as if it was a real SVG node in my DOM tree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is only interesting if we can integrate some SVG shapes into an HTML document and make it &#8220;javascriptable&#8221; as if it was a real SVG node in my DOM tree&#8230;</p>
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